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Thanks for the reply. All I can think of would be to enslave the PCs to get them there and then have them break out. There are a lot more people here that know more about Greyhawk than I do that mig ...

The first suggestion in the module is "Have the party meet at Saltmarsh as a result of vague rumours that there is worthy work for adventurers in the neighborhood." Isn't that good enough and just ha ...

If you're not using Maure Castle, I can see placing Castle Zagyg there in Maure's place.

"Palace of the Vampire Queen" says it takes place on an island. The third module in the series is called "T ...

I'm not familiar with those later G modules. I'm familiar with G456789 from RC Pinnell.

I'm also familiar with D4, T5, and Q2 by Joseph Bloch.

These guys were not employees of TSR or WotC.

My Eclavdra is part of an evil campaign.

For my characters that I rolled using the OA book, I took a different approach. The OA book is so influenced by Japanese concepts that I would roll differe ...

For an Oerthly name, I straight up named my drow PC Eclavdra. ...But she's in someone's homebrew which isn't Oerth. It's all good. The DM and the players don't know. They don't care. :)

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Shoot, I'm surprised there's a thing now called Flatearthers. And that's a real life deal not an in-game deal. So, there may be characters or monsters in Oerth that believe Oerth is flat. I don't k ...

The World of Greyhawk box set says Oerth has a polar circumference of 8,400 leagues (25 ,200 miles). Thus, traveling 23 leagues (70 miles, 2 1/3 hexes) in a north r south direction covers one degree ...

Soulsong, it sounds to me like you're more interested in a Gygax world map of Oerth more so than a TSR map of Oerth. I think they are different concepts.

My collected notes on it say:

Greyhawk ...

I remember when this book came out. But in all these years I never noticed that detail. :)

I had never played C2 before. My group just finished it a few weeks ago. :)

I can relate to that too. When we started, we were playing modules and not thinking about a world they might be assigned to. The modules have a "Start" section and the Basic rules said to not worry ...

I was playing D&D 40 years ago but while my friends were getting the AD&D books, I had gotten the boxed set and kept getting the other boxed sets as they came out. So I was familiar with the ...

His last post was a week and a half ago.

Now that's funny!

The DMG "EXPERIENCE VALUE OF TREASURE TAKEN" section says:

Treasure must be physically taken out of the dungeon or lair and turned
into a transportable medium or stored in the player's stronghold ...

You also have the Living Greyhawk inset map of Oerth.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JPmS7Tnp7MA/T3DAdFXCNdI/AAAAAAAAA6w/Pag_7xuoIaU/s1600/living_greyhawk_gazetteer_inset_map.png

The inset map makes ...

So if we ignore Aquaria, we have four continents. There are four defined in 1976's "The Dragon" Vol. 1, No. 1. There are four "great" continents defined in the folio from 1980.

My own take is to ...

Gary said, "Francois had a map of a continent and some islands to the east, and they were going to be added. The "Orient" wes actually to be past them, closer to the West Coast of Oerik... Len Lakofka ...

Yeah, that's the article. Thanks.

I've read WG7 and I'm not offended by your comment. I did read how someone else had a good time with it and I'm glad he and his friends did.

Positive review: [I can't find it now but I read it thi ...

I looks to me like the adventures offered in the City of Greyhawk box set seem kind of generic. I've never run this material. It's such an early 2nd Edition product that it name checks several 1st E ...

If you're a Gygax die-hard, you might also consider adapting his modules to represent levels in Castle Greyhawk.

Gary was originally inspired by a Bodenburg model for the castle part:

https://bo ...

In order to define what Yarth is for myself beyond the Sagard books, I think it makes sense to use a backwards Aerth map so I can still have the nations that belong to the Gord Yarth on the same plane ...

https://www.thepiazza.org.uk/bb/viewtopic.php?t=23158

Awesome!

Funny how people seem to cap on Mystara yet Goodman Games has 4 out of 6 re-dos of modules that were placed in Mystara by TSR and I think they're good pics by Goodman.

I found the walled city geomorphs to be difficult to use since the walls pose a problem the other sets don't have.

But it's not necessary, I see there is only one vote for less than 30 here. LOL

Greybeards endure.

I'll be 51 this year.

B2 wasn't assigned to Greyhawk officially until after 1st Edition.

It seems that you could have your players use the From the Ashes rules to determine what happens, right?

What I captured after researching dates for those modules you mentioned is:

T series (1979+): PUBLISHED GREYHAWK CAMPAIGN (OR 1220, CY 576, JR 570) (WG series) (level 1)
CY 576 folio and box (1980 ...

Proof here that Gary at one time allowed PCs to have an ability score of 19 for those into the debate about if bonuses beyond the 18 limit should be allowed.

I hadn't heard of "Church of Crom, Scientist" before!

Are you going to have a hollow Oerth?

Book 2 doesn't seem to have anything specific to Oerth or Yarth.

It occurs to me that the weird Oerth references in book 1 may have been Gary's way of fudging TSR copyright. I'll have to see if Bo ...

In Book 1, "Section 117," it references Oerth. The copyright on this book is 1985. So either in the Sagard version of Yarth people think the planet is called Oerth or in 1985 this was Oerth and late ...

Book 1, Section 32 includes "evil priest of Izu" and "cool blue light of the moon and stars"

So there's a version of Iuz which is Izu here and confirmation that there is a blue moon. This Sagard v ...

I think such anachronisms work fine in the context of a fictional world as they provide ways to differentiate our real history with the made up one. It might make sense to find a justification for ho ...

If that works for you, then I'm sure you can make it work. I was trying to play through The Ice Dragon and died again. But I keep encountering references to things that we know exist in Oerth. So h ...

The Oerth placement of the Isle of Dread as described in "Dungeon Magazine" 114 is in the Peal Sea. So maybe Yarth has two islands known as the Isle of Dread.

I bought the Sagard books a couple of years ago and just looked through all of them to see if they had maps. There is a map of the Crimson Sea which contains four islands. One of which is labeled Is ...

45 degree latitude-Alps

36 degree latitude-Strait of Gilbraltar

I think the 6.5 degree more in tilt means that the seasons are a little more extreme. I don't think it means we should adjust the ...

Those names you mentioned in the original post I think come from the "Dragon Magazine Annual #1" which looks like it an in-game type of map that doesn't have to accurate. The map from the Chainmail r ...

In part of S4, it says that "If the party chooses to leave the hall they will be stranded in the alternate dimension until they return to the hall. The DM must create a scenario if the party wishes t ...

Any idea what Yarth looks like beyond what is listed in the Sagard books? Any idea on the number continents?

Twice I've noticed that the module recommends expanding. The falling part you described sounds more like encounter D for the "Key to the Lesser Caverns." In that section which describes "The River E ...

Last night we actually got to get some real playing time in, instead of determining which pre-gens go to who and were the PC are starting.

So, I thought you all might be interested to know that the ...

OK, I get what is defined now. But I was thrown because to say you have a month of 28 days where the moon's cycles divide into a solar year exactly didn't make sense to me.

I understand that eac ...

But the box set also indicates that the solar year and lunar year are the same with the following:

The smaller moon (Celene. or The Handmaiden) goes through four cycles each year, becoming full on ...

I want to tell the players that I've started the campaign at the start of CY 576. The S4 text says it's taken 2 sen'nights to get to the start. What day is it?

The folio says there are 360 days. ...

I know the Return version of this module is set 20 years later but I didn't see where the Fane area had been built new in those 20 years. So I think it stands to reason that the Fane area can be run ...

I saw that several months ago but enjoyed watching it again.

The Realm of Dungeons & Dragons isn't Greyhawk. The cartoon does show you monsters and characters you'll recognize such as Warduke, ...

The https://davidleonard-greyhawkmusings.blogspot.com/2019/11/history-of-oerth-part-1-of-grey-elves.html page references an "Oerth Journal" quote, "exploring the South Central portion of Oerth" which ...

The http://www.thepiazza.org.uk/bb/viewtopic.php?t=15428 page recommends a portal in the Spindrift Isles but I can't see this topic as having a canon source.

Sometimes I think Nyr Dyv contains a portal to Moria and the Tolkien races were trapped in Oerth and couldn't get back and here the Elves are diminished by getting smaller...but that seems to break th ...

I'm not familiar with these details but such a straight-forward question made me think that maybe the Greyhawk Wiki is working. And it is:

https://greyhawkonline.com/greyhawkwiki/index.php?title=S ...

I did it.

First one is a video titled "That's no moon. It's a space station. "

Second one is titled ""IT'S NOT A MOON" — A Bad Lip Reading of Star Wars."

I think Gygax did generally avoid RL stuff but "Dragon Magazine" issue 100 has a non-Gygax adventure to recover the Mace of Cuthbert from Earth of 1985.

I'm surprised you picked Finland for Blackmoor instead of the Netherlands since that appears to be the basis for the Blackmoor maps. I also like to think that Constantinople might be a good analogue ...

I don't think naval rules are setting specific but rather rules specific. I believe Original, Basic, and Advanced cover naval encounters.

https://www.enworld.org/threads/evidence-chainmail-had-material-from-dave-arneson.668205/

Platt's game was set in Middle-Earth and I think that's how Chainmail, D&d and Blackmoor got some Tolki ...

I logged:

http://zenopusarchives.blogspot.com/2016/10/gygaxian-orc-tribes.html

It just occurred to me that you might want to see if the Dangerous Journeys' Epic of Aerth's Phaeree is what you'd want to use for your dreamscape.

http://www.icculus.org/~msphil/mythus/bestiary/ph ...

I hope it helps!

"Halls of the Elven-king"

I've not used it.

I did a search and found a copy of it. That was very interesting to see the bottom of the first page mention "star signs" which I interpret to be zodiac signs. I wasn't aware of this UK publication.

I was thinking about Mentzer's placement of Oerth as Tau Ceti 4. Gygax referenced at some point that there are twelve constellations in the Oerth sky but he didn't say what those twelve are. If Oert ...

I searched for "port city north-western France" and found a page with ports in France. Brest, France seems like a good way to place Aurora, Syzygie.

I still think that the French comic uses a scal ...

Kuntz says, "he [Gary] realized that 9 rooms was the same as the number of planets in the solar system for the Original Greyhawk Campaign."

So there's a conflict in astrology between Kuntz' and Men ...

I knew about Tau Ceti but I didn't know about Poseidon. I'm kinda fascinated right now by the OD&D era setting. So there's the Sun, Poseidon, Oerth, at least one moon, Barsoom, and somewhere I'm ...

I was researching through El Raja Key and noticed a story about how a player realized a portal would that his character to Saturn and the player didn't want to risk going there. This was the OD&D ...

The map I was looking for turned up during a move a few months ago! I was so surprised! The key is with it. If you want to see what a 11 or 12 year old kid did in about 1982/1984 with a single page ...

It also works for clerics that worship a philosophy such as Law, etc.

I like how this quote:

According to Planes of Chaos (and other 1-2e sources) clerics gain 1st and 2nd level spells through their faith alone, not needing deities or other powers to grant them spell ...

1985 was copyright date for WG6

1991 was copyright date for Wars

T1 assumes the characters came from the City of Greyhawk, but that doesn't mean anything really. Aside from that, it has everything you asked for.
1st Edition--check
church (Cuthbert)--check
grove ...

Rob lists the 9 in El Raja Key product as:

The nine, from the Loosing of the "Nine" by Robilar: Celestian, Erythnul, Heironeous, Hextor, Iuz, Obad-hai, Olidammara, Ralishaz, and Trithereon or the f ...

The posters here know so much about this setting. It's a great resource for any question you might have.

I had no idea. Thanks.

When did d10 for init start? My friends used d10 for 1st Edition but the rules say d6. I like d6 for more chances of simultaneous attacks.

Sounds exciting. It's a massive effort. How did you figure out what needed changing after the initial serialized version was finished? Did you have a bunch of DMs and players giving you input or wa ...

The topography doesn't seem right to have B1 where it's designated in the Return map. It makes more sense to me that somewhere on that map is a portal to B1. I like the idea of placing B1 where Rati ...

Did the CH Moldvay modules ever establish a reference to a particular campaign setting? I'm guessing if there were Drow in them that Oerth somewhere is a good spot to place it...? Maybe the original ...

Kendall Keep is listed in Yeomanry on the maps found at:

https://ghmaps.net/

I think that's interesting because Gygax seems to have said he didn't consider it a Greyhawk-specific module yet he r ...

There are people that visit this site that have been looking at different angles of "beyond the Flaness" longer than I have that's for sure...and they may have different conclusions than me. But it's ...

It also occurred to me that different people will want to branch out in different ways in determining what they think Oerth was/is and should be in their campaigns. Some people are interested in know ...

Yeah, Joe did an awesome job coming up with the map. I re-read some of the posts and see now that he based his dimensions on the Dragon Annual map.

This is one of my favorite topics. Oerth is like a riddle because Gygax isn't around anymore to help us identify what he had in mind with a little more detail that we would use for a setting.

Th ...

HWR2 is a Hollow World module so as written the encounter is located inside the world of Mystara. One of the civilizations there is Nithia and is based on Egypt. But Nithia is on a continent where t ...

Or you might be interested in the Kingdom of Nithia module.

A map with encounter areas for that fantastical version of Egypt is available at:

https://mystara.thorfmaps.com/hw-southern-iciria-40/ ...

It seems to me that you might want to research "Gary Gygax's Necropolis (D20)."

I saved this for future use! Thanks!

1981 Expert rules seem simple to follow. There is a section called "COMBAT AT SEA" on page X64.

THE UNDERWORLD & WILDERNESS ADVENTURES booklet says, "Room "E" is a transporter, two ways, to just about anywhere the referee likes, including the center of the earth or the moon."

I found a ma ...

http://beholderpie.blogspot.com/

http://tsr.bothgunsblazing.com/index.htm

http://zenopusarchives.blogspot.com/

http://mageofthestripedtower.blogspot.com/

http://mystara.thorf.co.uk/

htt ...

The new disc works here on my work PC. I can't wait to find a few minutes to peek at it some more!

Ah, I see my OCR wasn't working that far through the .pdf file which is why I wasn't finding it. Thanks!