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    GreySage

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    Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:31 am  
    The origin of Csipros Erd

    Csipros Erd is a mysterious valley in Ket that's periodically plagued with deadly poisonous gases that kill everything in the lowlands. I doubt it's been used much because the whole place is basically one massive "save or die" trap without much else going on in it. It'd be improved by the addition of more monsters (for example, undead) immune to the gases; Greyhawk Adventures does mention "steam and mud elementals that have moved into the region," though, so it's not completely empty.

    The question, though, is what the source of the deadly gases is. Well, The Inner Planes accessory, page 80, notes that the border region between the Paraelemental Plane of Ooze and the Quasielemental Plane of Steam is known as the Choking Gale, which is characterized by "rolling clouds of toxic vapor that're carried along by brutal winds. No living thing, not even bloods normally immune to poisons, can survive the Choking Gale for long." Aha! An elemental vortex between Csipros Erd and the Choking Gale would explain both the elementals and the toxic gases that erupt from the valley's lakes. Mystery solved?
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    Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:24 am  

    Works for me! Heat and poisonous gasses are also known to be signs of Oerthblood smelting, if memory serves.

    For inspiration, how about the Sulphur Mines of Indonesia ?

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    Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:29 am  

    Very nice, Rasgon. Works for me. I like it. Cool

    Excellent picture, Aeolius. Don't know how you keep finding that stuff. But it fits with Rasgon's theory nicely. Wink
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    Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:28 am  

    That sounds really rather good to me, too, Rasgon. The only proviso that I might add is that it doesn't necessarily have to be an actual vortex. It could be planar seepage crossing over. Perhaps it's a vortex that is forming, or a Gate that once was open eons ago or something. Perhaps a former site of where a powerful Mage breached the veil between worlds or something.

    Other than that, I think that it sounds like a fantastic idea! You've hit the nail on the proverbial head with this one!
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    Fri Sep 30, 2011 3:53 pm  

    It sounds very similar to what happens in some calderas. Like Mount Mazama in Oregon ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Mazama ) or perhaps what Yellowstone would look like after a terrible super-explosion ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowstone_Caldera )

    Are there any sorts of magic items or artifacts that could cause something like this to happen or perhaps it's just a "natural occurrence"?
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    Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:04 pm  

    I think elemental vortices are a natural phenomenon on the Prime Material Plane, though paraelemental vortices such as this are rarer. Surely it's possible to create something like this with a magic item (perhaps a well of worlds), but I like to think it's an example of a natural vortex, if only because the precise destinations of these are otherwise poorly attested to.
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    Sat Oct 01, 2011 1:18 am  

    Nice work Rasgon. A vortex of natural origins sounds fine; not every weird place in the Flanaess has to the result of a cataclysm, deity, or magic-user. The Sinkhole, a core-Hawk scenario is Dungeon 103, has a link to the Plane of Shadow that was naturally caused by a severe earthquake.
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