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kafka
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 1:52 pm    Post subject: Lost Civilizations Reply with quote

Playing around with the concept of Ages in my head plus looking the materials on Wind Dukes. I was wondering what other Lost Civilizations would arise on Oerth, because of the demonic interference, it is often postulated that all of Oerth is a single progressive line up to the present. However, what if there Empires that had risen and fallen outside of recorded History. What shape could these civilizations take?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erik Mona did something on this over on his blog - http://www.superunicorn.com/erik/2005/02/ancient-cultures-of-eastern-oerik.html

Then there's -

The pre-human demon-worshipping troglodyte civilization in the Amedio mentioned in The Scarlet Brotherhood.

The Spellweaver civ in the Amedio mentioned in Age of Worms.

Whoever built the City of the Gods on the edge of the Land of Black Ice.

I'm sure I'm forgetting/never heard of plenty of other stuff.

You might get more replies to this question if it were over on the WOG Discussion forum.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

smillan_31 wrote:
The Spellweaver civ in the Amedio mentioned in Age of Worms.


I am not familiar with this. How well it is detailed? Is there a free source for it? Perhaps one mag for sale with a lot of info?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wolfsire wrote:
smillan_31 wrote:
The Spellweaver civ in the Amedio mentioned in Age of Worms.


I am not familiar with this. How well it is detailed? Is there a free source for it? Perhaps one mag for sale with a lot of info?


There's some info in the Age of Worms Overload pdf which you can download from Paizo -- http://paizo.com/paizo/news/dungeon/v5748eaic9jzc.

The part of the AoW that takes place there, "The Spire of Long Shadows" is in Dungeon #130 I believe.

I believe there's some historical info in the Shackled City AP. Am I right, anyone?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

smillan_31 wrote:
Whoever built the City of the Gods on the edge of the Land of Black Ice.


::does a little thread necromancy::

Presumably its the same as The City of the Gods in Dave Arneson's Blackmoor, which means its the crashed USS Beagle. Its inhabitants are an advanced human race (naturally) one of whom was Stephen 'The Rock' Rocklin (known as Saint Stephen for those familiar with The Temple of the Frog adventure).

In my own campaign, I treat Blackmoor in Greyhawk as a sort of 'gateway zone': as the PCs approach the border, they actually cross into the reality of the Blackmoor world and are no longer on Oerth. Since both have a Great Kingdom and both are known for 'travelers from distant lands' (El Raja Key, Greyhawk and Blackmoor being 3 of the best known 'crossover' campaigns) people in the know are generally blase about the whole deal.

Anyway, given the technological advantages of the USS Beagle crewmen (personal shield generators, basters, powered armour, 'Bots, etc) they would make a challenge for epic-level characters I think.
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rasgon
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keolander wrote:
Presumably its the same as The City of the Gods in Dave Arneson's Blackmoor, which means its the crashed USS Beagle.


Well, conceivably (and I'm sure it was originally Gygax's intention for this to be a reference to the city in Arneson's campaign), although there was a completely different, Oerth-specific interpretation in Dungeon #126. See the wiki entry.
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