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rasgon GreySage

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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:22 pm Post subject: Races of Oerth |
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Made using Avatar Maker on a whim. |
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Krimeah Apprentice Greytalker

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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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| *LOL* Cool. |
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Thulcondar Journeyman Greytalker

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Greyson CF Admin

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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:15 am Post subject: Nice |
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| Krimeah wrote: |
| *LOL* Cool. |
Yeah, those are freakin' awesome. Nice work, Rasgon. I think those are perfect.
Don (Greyson)
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Cebrion CF Moderator/Admin


Joined: Feb 16, 2003 Posts: 1839 Location: So. Cal
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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Xan Yae(minus the twin willow-leaf broadswords):
Don't mess with the Supreme Mistress of Petals!!! :D _________________ ---Cebrion
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chaoticprime Master Greytalker

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Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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Giving the suloise the sinister look is racial stereotyping! Not all suloise are evil, just the interesting ones.
I am kidding, btw, don't get all angry flan on me. |
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gargoyle Master Greytalker

Joined: May 14, 2003 Posts: 349 Location: the Free City of Dyvers (Kansas City, MO)
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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:37 am Post subject: |
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Very cool! I always pictured the baklunish as more golden tan and the flan as more copper red-brown, but hey, these work too. Nicely done. _________________ Greyhawk is dead; long live Greyahwk! It is not heresy; I will not recant! |
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Pat_Payne Journeyman Greytalker

Joined: Feb 07, 2007 Posts: 61 Location: The Kingdom of Nyrond (LA County, CA)
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:24 am Post subject: |
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Exremely well done!
One thing though -- I thought the Baklunish were more Middle-Easternish as opposed to Chinese. |
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rasgon GreySage

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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Pat_Payne wrote: |
Exremely well done!
One thing though -- I thought the Baklunish were more Middle-Easternish as opposed to Chinese. |
Culturally, I'd say they were in many ways, although there are Baklunish nations as inspired by Mongols (particularly the Paynims, Tiger Nomads, and Wolf Nomads) as the others are by any Arabic or Persian cultures. The Mongol inspiration, the "golden" skin tone, and Xan Yae and Zuoken's emphasis on kung fu and mysticism (and their decidedly non-Arabic names) point to a heavy East Asian influence as well. Whether or not they have the epicanthal folds characteristic of our world's East Asians is a matter of personal taste, since the books are silent on that subject - I think one of the early Oerth Journals suggested they did, but that would of course be unofficial.
That said, I tried not to make this one so blatantly East Asian, but gave up in favor of making him more distinctive, since my other tries either had him looking like a hippie or like a nondescript contemporary man. It doesn't make sense for them to wear turbans or other Middle-Easternish-style head-coverings when they don't live in the desert, so this one has his straight, fine, dark hair in a topknot. You can't really tell since I shrunk down the picture, but he has the green eyes the books say the Baklunish have. |
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Icarus CF Art Director

Joined: Nov 01, 2007 Posts: 171 Location: Revelling in the IRL gaming, for the first time in a long time, in Houston TX.
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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:28 pm Post subject: They're all Asian |
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Well, I think thatt you essentilly have it right, but it's an awfully broad question. Imagine asking, "Don't all Asians have almond shaped eyes?" Well, that might be considered true about Far East Asians, but what about people from India? They are technically Asian as well. What about Iraq? The Middle-East is on the Asian continent. And there is a huge difference in the shape of Thai eyes, and Korean or Japanese.
It's a similar answer for Greyhawk. It just depends on what type of Baklunish people you're talking about. Some are Persian or Arabic, and some are more Mongolian. The only "true" Oriental (read as Japanese or Chinese) culture that I know of on Oerth is the Celestial Imperium, but that's not even part of the Flanaess. That's way, way, far, far, FAR to the West. |
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Cebrion CF Moderator/Admin


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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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| The Baklunish are "Eastern". You mix all Middle Eastern and Asian influences together to get something altogether completely different, yet similar. That is the Baklunish. You might have some variation among the various Balunish lands(Zeif, Ekbir,Tusmit, Ull, Tiger Nomads, Wolf Nomads. Paynims), but overall they are similar in their appearance and cultural traditions. Too bad the Baklunish have yet to receive any treatment to reflect the original vision of them. |
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GVDammerung GreySage

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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Cebrion wrote: |
| Don't mess with the Supreme Mistress of Petals!!! :D |
I'm curious, where does this title originate from? Some sort of Monk obviously but not the 1e sort to my knowledge. _________________ GVD |
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Cebrion CF Moderator/Admin


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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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The title specifically appears in her entry in the 83' Glossogarphy on the last page, top right:
"Of course, Xan Yae can attack as a monk, the "Supreme Mistress of Petals, with five open hand attacks causing 6-36 points of damage and all other effects typical of such an attack."
Considering that Xan Yae was statted as being an 18th level Monk in the 83' boxed set(as well as a 14th level Thief-Acrobat with uber psionics), yes, it refers to a 1e Monk. Also note that she is an 18th level Monk when the class only went to 17th level. Yes, she's just that good(i.e. beyond mortal ability), attacking with one more attack than a Grand Master of Flowers and causing slightly more damage to boot. Her symbol is a black lotus bloom, hence the "petals" bit in her title.
Was that your foot?!
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Thanael Master Greytalker

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gargoyle Master Greytalker

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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:43 am Post subject: |
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| Cebrion wrote: |
| ... Her symbol is a black lotus bloom, hence the "petals" bit in her title. ... |
So I can tap her for any three mana?
Ducks, runs for cover....  _________________ Greyhawk is dead; long live Greyahwk! It is not heresy; I will not recant! |
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Vulcan Apprentice Greytalker

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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:29 am Post subject: |
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Only if you can manage to sacrifice her in the process...  |
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EATherrian Novice


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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:58 am Post subject: |
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| That Rhennee is might shifty looking. |
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GVDammerung GreySage

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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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Thanel and Cebrion,
Many thanks!  _________________ GVD |
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