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This is somewhat subjective, but there are hints based on the titles used in the various countries.

Almor: This nation is ruled by a prelate, and most historical territorial prelatures are in Italy ...

A lot of nations could do this in theory: the Sea Barons, Lordship of the Isles, the Snow Barbarians, even Greyhawk might do it under the right circumstances. It all depends on the story you want to t ...

I'm surprised that the world of Greyhawk didn't have a goddess of the tender passions (the closest would be Ehlonna, FR's Sharess, and FR's Loviatar) for prostitutes to pray to.

Myhriss.

Lords of Madness: The Book of Aberrations:

Bolothamogg (Him Who Watches from Beyond the Stars): Bolothamogg is said to be the darkness between the stars, the guardian force or entity that exists ...

So, just to be clear, Rasgon, are you postulating that the creation of Incabulos was the imprisonment of Tharizdun?

I think a universe where a major aspect of creation has to be locked away because ...

I confess to being somewhat stuck on where Incabulos fits in, as his Domain of Evil seems conceptual (and maybe best merged with Tharizdun?) while his Domain of Disease seems more material (and maybe ...

I also would like to propose folding Dalt into Delleb and preserving Kuntz' original intention with this deity that Dalt/Delleb/Dugmaren/Nebelun be a disguise for Nyarlathotep (or similiar figure) to ...

Noel Graham, aka Watcher, asked him and posted the response to the Greytalk mailing list in the mid-1990s.

[url=https://melkot.com/mysteries/circle.html]Maldin also mentioned it on his website.

I've been expanding on this.

Some additions: Obad-hai is Llerg, Vecna is Diirinka, Zodal is Meriadar, Fharlanghn is Avandra, Trithereon is Haela, Zagyg is Aasterinian, Ralishaz is Norebo, Kurell is ...

If you have a different story you'd like to share with us, by all means do so.

I'm not sure it's fair to expect that something a fan wrote over 20 years ago would completely fit your preferences t ...

I've just skimmed through the Creation Myth on the Old Lore D&D thread, and I don't like it.

Can you link to it, so that we know what you're talking about?

Do you mean [url=http://www.canon ...

What if the first generation were strictly conceptual (maybe Boccob and Tharizdun both wooing Istus as a mate), who begat the second generation of physical deities.

Maybe, but one of the distinctio ...

Is it safe to assume, Rasgon, that Saint Cuthbert is only and none other than the Catholic saint of Earth transplanted onto Oerth?

I didn't mention him because I don't think he has a nonhuman equiv ...

The idea behind this was to collapse all the various racial pantheons into a single set of gods known by different names and varying aspects in different cultures. I think, honestly, that it makes the ...

Generally agree with all points and references here. IIRC, even Gord was basically a slave to Theobald in Greyhawk.

And before that, he was sentenced to three years of penal servitude.

I don't know if Ivid the Undying had slaves (the Ivid the Undying book mentioned something about having Undead servants as a thing).

It did, yes. It describes extensive slavery (of living people) t ...

The planar ally detailed in "Core Beliefs: Pelor" in Dragon #346 is Noonfeather, a celestial giant eagle.

Complete Divine does state that Pelor uses a solar as his herald, but doesn't name them.

Cegilune is isn't she? Although like any named so far the exact relationship is questionable.

The -lune suffix suggests Luna, specifically.

I integrated it with B8 Journey to the Rock and set it in the Known World of Mystara.

https://pandius.com/rckjourn.html

I suppose you could replace Nithia and Tuma in that backstory with [url=ht ...

I go with Ehlonna=Luna and Sehanine=Celene. Note the similarity in names! Ehlonna's unicorn horn symbol doubles as the horn of a lunar crescent.

Rao has some dominion over the moons, too—he create ...

The Mighty Servant of Leuk-O is literally a mecha.

Or it still exists, and the Chainmail map is wrong or incomplete.

Or the Dragon Annual #1 map is accurate, but in the future rather than the past.

Or the Chainmail map and the Dragon Annual #1 ...

See also [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_twins]the Divine Twins from proto-Indo-European mythology.

PS - Rasgon's crystal sphere description makes me think that the Far Realm is the stuff outside of or between the spheres. Did that setting, or other lore, ever relate the two ideas?

No, in part ...

5th edition Spelljammer eliminated crystal spheres, for whatever that's worth.

From a practical perspective, if you're going to build a setting about traveling to other star systems in flying ships ...

A recent read by me is [url=https://www.amazon.com/Butcher-Forest-Premee-Mohamed-ebook/dp/B0C1X7W5B2/]The Butcher of the Forest by Premee Mohammed, a terrifying and evocative look at a woman navigatin ...

Blackmoor renamed as Arn.

Oh, I get it.

After Dave.

It's not "canon," but I use [url=https://billg350.tripod.com/dwarves.htm]this timeline, which names seven ancient dwarven kingdoms, including one beneath the Barrier Peaks.

I wrote the story up this morning.
And decided Hextor's mother was Johydee's half-orc sister, Alia.
But your version looks good too.

Ah, I see you subscribe to the theories of Jayce of Wintershiv ...

Incorrect. Her name was Gonk. The orcish tradition of not naming their daughters is actually a relatively recent one, and mostly only persisted during the dynasty of Sahgorim the Officious among the w ...

There isn't anything official, but Randy Richard's [url=http://www.canonfire.com/cf/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownloaddetails&lid=220&ttitle=RR01_Suel_Imperium:_Age_of_Glory]Suel ...

Smillan_31's From the Ashes. He apparently decided that rather than retcon her as having been around all along, it might be more interesting to introduce her as a newcomer that demonstrates the dire m ...

Before Return of the Eight brought Tenser back, it was a popular fan theory that Philidor was Tenser (who is associated with the color blue) returned from the heavens like Gandalf the White, sent by t ...

Explicitly so, since Gygax put Gord in an Eternal Champion story ("Evening Odds," from White Wolf's Pawn of Chaos anthology of Moorcock-inspired stories).

In the story, Gord teams up with another i ...

The Nine are : Iuz, Ralishaz, Trithereon, Erythnul, Olidammara, Heironeous, Hextor, Celestian, and Obad-Hai

Those were the nine prisoners in Gary Gygax's original Greyhawk campaign, but his origina ...

I think the best way to look at the state of the canon timeline is:

1. Eclavdra's plan to use giants to conquer a portion of the surface world succeeded, for a time, but neither Eclavdra nor Lolth ...

The randomness of the item seems designed to derail any specific plans a DM might have, which is fine if you're comfortable with winging it but is the opposite of how published adventures generally wo ...

It's not an adventure, but Well of Many Worlds that might prove useful.

You could probably use many adventures that feature a portal to another plane (EX1 and EX2, for example) and swap whatever g ...

I can't remember off hand where the original concept came from (Scarlet Brotherhood sourcebook?) but I was under the impression that the current Olman pantheon were originally deities from Earth.

...

In [url=http://www.canonfire.com/cf/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=9654]Journeys Through the Radiant Citadel and Oerth I discussed some ideas about using the cultures in that 5e adve ...

Eric Menge's article Power Groups: Druids of the Old Faith from the Wizards of the Coast website is also worth reading.
Thanks for that. I think I read Menge's article back in the day but must have f ...

Eric Menge's article [url=https://web.archive.org/web/20181017002224/http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=lg/lgpg/20080122a]Power Groups: Druids of the Old Faith from the Wizards of the Coast website ...

What source(s) establish Al'Asran as Pelor and Al'Zarad as Boccob?

The original source was Oerth Journal #3, page 6: "Even the Art of the Sha'ir flourishes within this edifice, much to the chagrin ...

Earlier, I suggested the Great Kingdom, and while that still fits, I am thinking that Keoland might work.

You could replace Sigmar's Hammer with [url=http://www.canonfire.com/cf/modules.php?name=F ...

Looking at Jason's index, it lists the LGJ article is the only source for the sword, with no mention of Treasures of Greyhawk. How were you planning to use it from there, Marc?---a quick flip throu ...

You could consider lengthening divine names, not just shortening them, in the way that "Christopher" is longer than "Christ," and "Samuel" is longer than "El."

I don’t want them to be extinct, but a culture in severe decline would explain their scarcity in published works.

They could mostly dwell in the nearby hills, perhaps as far as the Abbor-Alz, whic ...

I'd be tempted to make that sort of Amazon an earlier phase of Hardby's culture. Effectively extinct by the sixth century of the Common Year, but evidence of it can be found in the form of ancient fre ...

Functionally, slavery in Greyhawk isn't as illegal as it seems, though.

1. Penal servitude being legal means a judge can sentence someone to what is effectively slavery for up to two years for the ...

1) I don't recall any mention of slavery being legal in the Wild Coast cities specifically, but I do know that The Adventure Begins states that Greyhawk abolished slavery some time either during or ju ...

The Adventure Begins, page 55: "Along this poor strip of land, the Suloise established the Wild Coast's long traditions of independence, adventuring, and seafaring, as well as treachery, slavery, thef ...

Doesn't this have something to do with the direction of the rotation of the earth?

That's my understanding, yes. If the Oerth rotates in the same direction as Earth, the winds should blow in the s ...

I think Iuz comes late in this plan, probably after his release.

The problem with that is that by the time Iuz is released, Zuggtmoy is imprisoned. Zuggtmoy is imprisoned beneath the temple in 569 ...

I wrote about it a little in If Lolth's weakness was because of her defeat in Q1, this makes some sense, but, as I said above, the GDQ supermodule specifically takes place after the events of T1-4. Bu ...

A couple of questions:
But the map here ( http://www.canonfire.com/cf/ghadventures.php ) places them far apart, and Forge of Fury seems to be placed in high mountains. The 5E version of Forge of Fury ...

Either way, blowing up one of Oerth's moons is out of the question unless you are running a campaign that holds Puppets and Gargoyles in high esteem.

I'd suggest downgrading it to a comet or astero ...

Here's a description of his corpse from the Living Greyhawk adventure KEO5-06 A Tale of Two Lions:

Kimbertos Skotti of House Lizhal was a man of broad shoulders and regal bearing. His face is weath ...

Hi there
A remark and a question on the krealm and the residence of Pholtus:

AD&D1: LG (LN) and Arcadia
FtA: forgot
On Hallowed Ground: LN and Mechanus/Path of the Law

One possible way to ...

Did the oeridians come from that far west? Is there a canon source for that? I thought that was the case but then could never find a source for that thought.

Ivid the Undying: "Driven from their ...

I don't know for sure, but I suspect it got named like this:

Gygax's players: Are you ready to start the game?

Gygax: Yeah, as soon as I think of a name for the battlefield.

Gygax: Hm. (Write ...

Because necromancers make better dungeons, you're going to want a lot of necromancer-ruled kingdoms in the ancient past just to stock present day dungeons with undead.

I don't think the Isles of Wo ...

Your guess is right on. Having a Vecna presence near the Nyr Dyv was important in bridging the lore. However, I don't think he had anything to do with the Isles of Woe. His empire was in its infanc ...

"A cambion is the offspring of a fiend (usually a succubus or incubus) and a humanoid (usually a human)." D&D5 MM 36
If I remember correctly, this is also the case in AD&D.
Jacques

Most ...

1) People always say that WG7 Castle Greyhawk is terrible, but there are parts worth salvaging. However, nobody ever specifies what the salvageable parts actually are. I challenge you: What specifi ...

EttRoG is a streamlined version of Greyhawk Ruins. Several plots have been written into it, and areas not relating to those plots have largely been blocked off.

I compared and contrasted the two so ...

Thank you for this information. Have you located any of these residences? is his tower in the rushmoors still standing? nyr-dyv? I don't think everyone agrees on the location of its former capital.
J ...

The Greyhawk Grumbler #3Ten Oligarchs Not Enough to Make Soup
Riddle me this: what's got twenty hands and no head? The recently decapitated Directing Oligarchy of Greyhawk, of course! With Oligarchs ...

Since Vecna's escape from the Demiplane of Dread in 591 CY, he has been said to dwell in various citadels hidden on the Prime Material Plane.

3rd edition's Deities & Demigods gives his home pl ...

Oh, I made the Empyrea map using [url=https://azgaar.github.io/Fantasy-Map-Generator/]Azgaar's Fantasy Map generator.

The 5th edition hardcover Journeys Through the Radiant Citadel includes a few suggestions for placing the adventures on Oerth, but none are in depth. I thought I'd give the subject some more thought. ...

Even if the Flan were largely nomadic before the Great Migrations--I think this may have been true for some Flan nations but not all of them--it doesn't necessarily follow that their culture would hav ...

I think the only one to be officially detailed is Complete Adventurer.

It was a generic, world-neutral supplement, so it wasn't given a place in the Flanaess. It's said to be "on the shore of Loch ...

[url=https://www.annabmeyer.com/]Anna Meyer's maps cover the Sea of Dust in good detail, although this is the post-Rain of Fire desert version.

I've said it before in an earlier thread, but I think Mayaheine is best used as a cautionary tale.

She arrives on Oerth as the survivor of another, similar world where whatever it is that's meant ...

Rasgon, I'm curious how you peg Gord's birthday to CY 558?

Thanks,

Joe / GG

Saga of Old City and the war between the Beggar's Union and Thieves Guild.

Erik Mona had him born in Flocktime, ...

Google traduction
from arab "chakyik" to english "brother"
Jacques

It looks like the translator app interpreted "chakyik" as the Arabic word "shaqiq."

As Scott pointed out in [url=http://www.canonfire.com/cf/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=9572]this thread, it's likely the Wegwuir were named after the [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/w ...

When does the scene described in this previous post take place ?

The Witchwar was 500 years before the events of the adventure path. (The Snows of Summer, page 52; The Witch Queen's Revenge, pages ...

Most of this is from Pathfinder's Reign of Winter adventure path, and the correspondence between Earth and Golarion dates is based on that as well. Oerth and Midgard dates are based on what the "prese ...

I made a list of Keoish houses in this earlier thread: http://www.canonfire.com/cf/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=5411

Here's a list of Suel houses: http://www.canonfire.com/cf/mo ...

Iggwilv kidnapped by Baba Yaga ? Who is her father ? A powerful character who protects her in the Feywild. Or a powerful character who entrusted Iggwilv to Baba Yaga.

I have my own ideas about Iggw ...

Are the Baernaloth "canon" in the world of Greyhawk?
Jacques

Why wouldn't they be? Oerth exists in the same multiverse as the planes detailed in sources like Hellbound: The Blood War and Faces ...

The last official write-up of Iggwilv that I am aware of was in The Savage Tide AP, wherein she is a 26th level Wizard/4th level Arch-Mage (30th level spell-caster) living in the Abyss to further her ...

There's something, believe it or not, not quite epic enough about the finalè I want to massage a little but am not quite sure how to do so: to wit, what are the real stakes for Oerth if the PCs f ...

I don't mind the hijack and I appreciate the answers!

Does anyone know if it's been listed with some of the events to prophesize the beginning of the age of worms is? I'd love to work that more int ...

Nowhere in either 1e or 3e do I see a nycadaemon ability that allows them interplanar travel. Word of Recall (1e) doesn't work across planes, nor does greater teleport (3e). 1eAD&D calls out tha ...

The nycadaemon certainly would know about Syrul and Saint Cyril, but my inclination is that, given the vagueness of his charge, he'd probably try to find just any old easy-to-kill Cyril before confron ...

What did he do? The player, on the spot and somewhat flustered, had his character send the nycadaemon off to "hunt down Cyril! We want vengeance on Cyril!"

Did they spell the name out?

If not, t ...

The other option I can think of is could relate to the Necropolis (can't recall the specific name) in what is now the Bright Desert where Kyuss first learned to make his worm zombies.

The Necrop ...

showing the boy being directed by a mysterious red-haired, green-eyed woman to enter a magical portal that transports him into a dark void only lit by his blazing blue eyes. A dark presence seemingly ...

But I also have elven fertility tied to Celene - elven maids have four cycles per year, and refer to the birth cohorts as 'children of summer', 'children of autumn', etc.

I was just thinking about ...

I agree with Rasgon and have used Ehlonna as a moon goddess for the Flanaess.

My argument for this:

-similarity to Greco-Roman goddess Artemis/Diana
-unicorn horn symbol doubling as lunar cresc ...

I use Ehlonna as the goddess of Luna and Sehanine as the goddess of Celene, and assume humans acknowledge both, though they may consider Pholtus, Rao, Lydia, or Lendor to be more important.

Many o ...

Thanks for your input, Rasgon, I knew I could count on you for some great ideas.

Do you have a favourite theory,

Well, I can discuss pros and cons.

The big problem with crediting ethergau ...

In Dragon #89, Llerg's "worshipers' alignment" is given as "Barbarians, berserkers, chaotic neutrals, some druids." Only one of these things is an actual alignment in the usual game sense of the term: ...

We know that Vecna's Rotted Tower was near present-day Shiboleth. Why did Vecna choose to live there and not in the Tower of Silence, since it clearly existed during his reign?

Some possible ex ...

The uldra make sense in Telchuria, I thought.

The LGG (2000) echoes that statement... but made Cyndor a specifically Oeridian god.

Yes, the Living Greyhawk Gazetteer did that with a number of common deities. They made Myhriss Flan, they made B ...

Here's a dwarven home map: https://www.elventower.com/208-wealthy-dwarven-house/

Another theory I've loosely mulled over is with the earliest Suel people being survivors of an aboleth slave race but I can't remember right now what my reasons for that were!

I think ti was to do ...