Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:18 pm
Turning/Commanding Undead
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Hello All,
I am in need of clarification and input from my 1e and 2e colleagues on the turning/commanding clerical tables. There seems to be a disconnect (go figure) between the two systems.
In the 1e DMG (pages 75-76), it seems that all planar critters (like devils, demons, etc) fall in the "Special" category, irrespective of HD.
1) Is this true? Does this mean that a cleric attempting to command or turn a measly lemure, dretch, or manes has the same chance to do so with a far more powerful vrock, pit fiend, or demodand?
2) Is it true, as I read and interpret, from this same table that only 1 or 2 of these planar creatures can be turned, instead of the "normal" number of 2d6?
However, in 2e on the turning/commanding table in the PH (page 103), they expand by adding entries for HD in addition to specific Undead. There seems to be not direct mention of planar beasts (Special mentions nothing about demons and the like).
Does this mean they are turned by Hit Die instead? (that is my interpretation, and whether right or wrong, I like it, as I have a very hard time accepting that a puny manes is as difficult to turn or command as a vrock!)
-Lanthorn
p.s. posting this in BOTH 1e and 2e forums, as it applies to both systems
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