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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:46 am    Post subject: Pathfinder. Who's playing? Reply with quote

In response to a discussion I've been having with Gnomon over on the help and feedback forum, just how many folks out there are planning on converting their campaigns to Pathfinder?

This is just to get the feel for numbers; I'm certainly not in a position to compose long articles at this moment in time and I don't want to feel the sharp edge of Cebrion's axe caressing my neck if it looks like I'm starting something that I can't finish Wink .
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thx Ragr! Figured I should post here too -- just to say that I plan on moving my long running Greyhawk campaign to Pathfinder RPG when it is finalized next year.

Whether or not Paizo/Pathfinder RPG create Greyhawk specific content -- Pathfinder RPG core rules are going to be the rules me and my game group move to to continue our adventures in Greyhawk.

As long as we have CanonFire to keep Greyhawk alive, it really doesn't matter what RPG rules you use to enjoy setting -- but IMO Pathfinder RPG is the way to go if you've been a long time 3.5E gamer like me.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Happy

Great to hear it! I am wanting to at least get my hands on a hard copy of the beta, I have the PDF but there is just something about having a real book in your hands to read rather than a screen.

I think the changes presented in Pathfinder will easily accommodate GH. I plan to use pathfinder in the future.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ordered 3 copies of the beta version, one for me, and one each for my players. It came to $47 in postage alone. But at least I still have the use of my eyes Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not playing at the moment, but I'm eyeing it real hard. many folks have said that Paizo picked up where 3.5 left off. Eveyone seems pretty happy with it, except sorcerers and monk's grappling rules. A lot of folks down here in the boarder states play Pathfinder.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DwarffromNyrond wrote:
I am not playing at the moment, but I'm eyeing it real hard. many folks have said that Paizo picked up where 3.5 left off. Eveyone seems pretty happy with it, except sorcerers and monk's grappling rules. A lot of folks down here in the boarder states play Pathfinder.


Good to hear DFN.

I keep saying to my game group that Pathfinder RPG is the only viable system for our group -- unless we want to invalidate our entire 3.5E library of materials. We have an extensive collection of 3.5E materials that will simply not work under 4E or will be difficult to make work un 4E without a great deal of work.

Is Pathfinder RPG perfect? No. But unless you want to invalidate your library and start up with a totally new game system (and I argue totally new game, not D&D) then your only real choice is Pathfinder RPG.

Paizo is doing something that I admire -- they are listening to their fans and providing materials and game upgrades that fans are really asking for in a next generation D&D RPG experience.

Give Pathfinder RPG a chance in your Greyhawk campaign and I am sure you find it the best choice to continue game play in Greyhawk.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if I will ever run a Pathfinder RPG game set in greyhawk or not as of yet, I will make that descision once the final rules come out.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The next campaign that I run will be use the Pathfinder rules in Greyhawk's setting. I have I few adjustments that I will make to customize to my campaign, but all in all the Pathfinder RPG system is a good one.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's comforting to know that there's at least a few of us out there.

My group played it's first session using the bata rules last night (RttTEE) and we had a blast. Yes, the pc's are tougher; but not disproportionately so as there was a near character death in one encounter and that was without converting the bad guys to Pathfinder (far too much work in a mod of this size).

The rules worked well, being neither more complicated or simpler overall. There were a couple of moments of leafing through the rules but that was inevitable given the number of "tidy up" changes that might otherwise go unnoticed.

Overall there's little to report. Which is a good thing in my view, because all I wanted was to continue playing a 3.5 D&D that had been cleaned up.
That's what Paizo promised. They delivered. Thanks, guys.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ragr wrote:
It's comforting to know that there's at least a few of us out there.

My group played it's first session using the bata rules last night (RttTEE) and we had a blast. Yes, the pc's are tougher; but not disproportionately so as there was a near character death in one encounter and that was without converting the bad guys to Pathfinder (far too much work in a mod of this size).

The rules worked well, being neither more complicated or simpler overall. There were a couple of moments of leafing through the rules but that was inevitable given the number of "tidy up" changes that might otherwise go unnoticed.

Overall there's little to report. Which is a good thing in my view, because all I wanted was to continue playing a 3.5 D&D that had been cleaned up.
That's what Paizo promised. They delivered. Thanks, guys.


Thanks for the update Ragr!

My group has agreed to move to the new rules -- but we are holding off until we complete the current campaign -- then we'll have a break -- and start in with Pathfinder RPG in Greyhawk sometime early next year -- which I am hoping will be just in time for the official launch of the final Pathfinder RPG rule set.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
I'm a new member, but a veteran player. Well, I've been playing for about 16 years, so I don't know if this qualifies as veteran, but...

Anyway, I just want to say that, not to bash on 4th ed or anything, but my friends and I are divided between 4th and 3.5/Pathfinder. Some of them are totally sold on 4th, whereas others (including me) do not like the new edition and are leaning towards Pathfinder. However, like another poster said, Pathfinder isn't perfect. There are still some ambiguities or, IMO, some things they changed that I didn't feel they needed be changed or vice versa - some things they didn't touch (yet?) that would have been better modified.

So, as for myself, I'm switching, but we are also working on our own reforms to correct some irregularities we have encountered in our groups.

I just want to add that what the people at Paizo are doing, to me, is the way to go: they didn't completely overhaul the game (especially the feel of it), and they take into account what people have to say or their demands.

By the way, did I read that someone doesn't like Pathfinder's Sorcerer? Isn't he better than 3.5's version? Of course, my friends and I are modifying him further, but I personnaly like the bloodlines. The thing with the Sorcerer is his known spells: it's just too few (especially with the new set of polymorph-type spells). That's what we're working on.

Well, hope I didn't bore anybody with my first post!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all, new to the boards.

I've been running a PfRPG Beta playtest with my group, using a Paizo AP (seemed appropriate, considering), and so far so good. My co-dm and I will houserule some things to bring Pathfinder more into our way of playing, but we are happy to have a living rules set to offer new players, rather than send them to eBay looking for used copies of 3x stuff.

With nearly 30 years of gaming under my belt (cut my teeth on Greyhawk, don't ya know), I have to say that the people over at Paizo have respect for the old ways, and a commitment to their fans like no other company I've seen since the very early days of TSR.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome,guys.

Good to hear that there are more of us playing Pathfinder. I'm now 3 sessions into using the rules set and have encountered very few problems-and those are mostly campaign things that are easily house-ruled.

I too, don't wish to slag off 4e because I've not even looked through the books let alone played the thing. But, everything I've heard about the game sets my teeth on edge; just the names of the races/classes/powers are enough to bring me to the conclusion that 4e does not suit the style of game I've been running for the last 25+ years. I'm really glad that others are enjoying it but it's not for me and I'm even more sure when I see the kind of material that Wotc are now producing; talk about repetition.

Enjoy your game.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got the Beta rules printed out from my work PC (shhhh...... Wink ) I've never played 3.5, but got some of the core product. I hadn't thought about running Greyhawk (reconsidering, now), but, Pathfinder is definitely very high in contention for my prefered rules. Paizo is doing a beautiful job graphically in production and technically in rules support.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:05 am    Post subject: love it Reply with quote

I got my hands on Pathfinder and I think it's a step in the right direction. My Greyhawk campaign will be "going Pathfinder" as soon as it's finalized, and I really appreciate how they've consolidated the skills and re-structured the number and variety of feats available.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Totally agree. I think Paizo have taken 3.5 and really "finished" it, rectifying most of the old faults and smoothing over a few cracks. It's not perfect, (what system is?)and I've had to tone a few things down to suit my campaign, but I'm completely happy with the overall rules and, of course, the biggest thing is not having to consign old books to a dusty corner.

I'm not convinced by the latest website downloads regarding traits-far too obvious really-but then the answer to that is simple; don't use 'em.

The only way I'll ever change systems again is if something truly mind-blowing comes along that suits my campaign. Very unlikely.

Happy gaming Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Somebody ought to be writing something for Pathfinder at least. The Oerth Journal is looking for article submissions for all versions of the rules. Generally we prefer things written based on TSR/WotC rules systems, and Pathfinder is a simple modification of the 3.5 rules so it fits. When we have the time, we like to include conversion notes when possible(if the author has not already done this so as to increase the utility of their offering to everyone), but that is not always the case. Anything written for a system not based on a TSR/WotC game system(ex: writing an adventure using the Fantasy HERO rules system) should have conversion notes of some kind for one of the TSR/WotC game systems.

Ragr writes enough drivel elsewhere so ought to be able to put together an article of some kind for either The Oerth Journal or for the Canonfire! front page.

The gauntlet has been thrown down. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And, in turn, I shall stoop to retrieve said gauntlet, turn it sideways and insert it gently somewhere dank and foul. Wink

My purple clad, entropy loving bozo, you severely misunderestimate ( Wink ) Ragr if you think I will rise angrily to such obvious goading. Not for me the angry fist waving temper tantrum; I much prefer the sharp sugar-coated blade and, as Eileen will testify, I have the gods on my side (usually). Confused

So you crave my drivel as submissions eh? Well, just as soon as I've got my campaign in order you may get that wish fulfilled. And, as the saying goes......careful what you wish for.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I already have, using the Beta rules. The response from my players has been overwhelmingly positive. I'm on pins and needles waiting for the final version to come out Happy .
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pathfinder is a more favorable system than 4e for playing Dungeons and Dragons style gaming (4e is actually not a bad game system, but it is definitely not what I consider a D&D system).

Pathfinder is the natural next step for those who like the 3.5 system, although it does have a potential for abusive power creep if not GMed properly.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Power creep is definitely an issue with Pathfinder and I wonder whether this was done deliberately because 4e seemed to be heading in the same direction of very power stacked pc's; I don't actually know this for sure not having played 4e.

The good thing about Pathfinder is, just like previous editions of D&D, it's very customisable so it works even in my (very) "low-magic/fantasy" style campaign.

You sound like you've played both, Telemachus, so you'll have a clearer perspective on this.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually Ragr, I can answer this having also played both systems. Telemachus, is spot on when he says it's not a bad system, but it doesn't feel like D&D.
Pathfinder IMO is much more compatable with the low magic setting even though, as has been noted, the characters have experienced "power creep" which was done to make them on par with the classes that came out in later books.
In 4th ed, characters have powers which feel very much like magical effects to me. Not to mention, certain races have abilites that also feel very magical. And then, there is also the ability for non-casters to cast spells through the use of a cooperative magic type feat, I can't remember the name right now.
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I've not bought Pathfinder RPG yet, but I'm certainly attracted by the fact that it builds upon the 3.5 SRD.

I'm probably going to wait for it to be finished before I spend any cash on it, but I'd love to see someone remove all of the the Pathfinder PI from the final thing and create a 100 percent OGC version that can then be used with other campaign settings.

If the D&D community (or Pathfinder themselves) can give us a new "3.75 SRD", the various fan communities could use that to create a conversion document for their favorite campaign setting. (I'd expect a big chunk of the conversion would need to be how to roll up divine character classes under Pathfinder rules.)

With WotC taking the "GH=core" line, that should be fairly easy for the GH community. So I'm looking forward to the day when I can download a Player's PDF that tells people how to roll up GH PCs under the latest 3rd edition rules.

(And, as a pro-choice gamer, I do think it is a shame that AD&D players don't have their own 1e and 2e SRD, to allow their games to be Pathfinderised by a company that wants to keep those earlier systems running.)
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bigmac wrote:
I've not bought Pathfinder RPG yet, but I'm certainly attracted by the fact that it builds upon the 3.5 SRD.


They've sold out of the hardcopy Betas, so rules-wise, there's nothing to buy until the final comes out. But, if you want a preview of what some of the changes may look like, the PDF is free.

The Beta rules were an "out there" production, used to test out some radical ideas. The final rules will be a more conservative update, from what I've heard from the designer on the Paizo boards.
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I grabbed a pdf of the beta for Pathfinder.

The flavour is great and all the way through it.

The balance of classes and races fixes the few things I don't like about 3.5 D&D.

Looking forward to further core pathfinder books, especially if they are as good as the adventure path stuff.
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