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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:13 am    Post subject: Forum Topics by Region & Other Ideas for the New Year Reply with quote

As I delve into more research for future campaign ideas, it has occurred to me that a useful tool may be to have a Forum "category" for regions similar in groupings to LG?
Currently we have:
Greyhawk- General Forums
Greyhawk- Rule Systems Forums
Greyhawk- Special Projects Forum
Forum Games & Online Play
The Oerth Journal Zine
Administration and Off Topic Forums
First,
NOT being anything that resembles a "web site guru" I don't know what this would undertake as far as implementation, or if there is a "tool" that senility and lack of "enlightenment" has not led me to find that would address.
Second,
Not trying to add anything to anyone's "plate", so happy to "help" as much as my limited knowledge brings.
Items / Topics that could be included there in would not be version specific but region specific, Maybe separation between Canon and Non-Canon? Or that could simply be managed in the Subjective titling.
The Wiki is certainly a useful tool, but really doesn't offer a place to "roundtable" ideas for campaign areas.
Just thought it might be a useful "sub-sort" that aspiring DMs might find helpful if their campaigns dominate a certain part of the Flanaess.

Just my two coppers... Any thoughts?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thread moved to its proper place, and I also altered the scope of the thread to encompass any an all ideas for the new year. Wink

Hmmm. For a while we have talked about getting together a Living Greyhawk area of the Articles section, basically a place where LG content could be archived(and such a place is actually there), but there hasn't been much of an outpouring of people coming forth to volunteer much information on Living Greyhawk. The discussion mainly came about from so many LG websites going defunct. Perhaps a lack of knowing what we were open to doing is part of why not so many people contacted us. A forum, with sub-forums for every region, however would be something that would pop up on search engines all of the time(not a bad thing), and so that might make people much more aware of what we would be willing to do. It will heavily be dependent on the community pushing it forward though. So, If we build it, will they come?

Also, setting this up on the forums is not a "grand task"- I could do it in a few hours, with most of that time being taken up by writing descriptions for the forum sections themselves. I could even break things up by Regional/Meta-regional groupings too. The Greyhawk community has been so resurgent of late(it will be a close thing, but this may end up being the busiest year for Canonfire! ever, based on page views) that I have a good amount of faith that people might actually jump into such a forum and really have at it- if enough word gets out that such a place actually exists to be used.

I think it is a pretty good idea. Add one more important thing to the list of things that I really need to go over with Gary this Thursday in GREYchat.

On second thought, I am going to move this from Canonfire! & GreyTalk Help and Feedback to General Discussion instead, as I want lots of people to see it and comment on both this idea, and to put forth more ideas of their own. I'll move it back later.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DLG,

Actually not a bad idea. Cebrion if your on board that enough to get my vote.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More opinions/ideas folks! Don't hold back! Laughing

On another note, today officially marks this as the busiest year for Canonfire! ever! W00t!!! Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:33 pm    Post subject: *Warning*A bit of a LONG Read Reply with quote

Cebrion wrote:
More opinions/ideas folks! Don't hold back! Laughing


How about a "all things magical" grouping? Sub set by Spells, Items ( ie rings, staffs, rods, etc), Weapons & Armors, unique / one of kind, Epic / artifact.

I haven't "fleshed it out" , but I'll Start with a "bobby". I would enter this as a "one of a kind".

History>
There once was a Grey Friar that was known by all in his hommlet. He sastained himself megerly, yet always had kind words for any that spoke to him, but seldom did he choose to initiate the conversations. Some saw him as a beggar, others as a hermit, but everyone agreed him harmless. Even with his meager funds, he always had something for a local stray dog. The dog, of a scottish terrier look, was nothing fearsome to be hold nor did he work or entertain for his meals. He was, however, a good & faithful companion, following the friar as he made his way through the day.
Sadly, one eve, the friar met with ill tidings... Brigands on the road, accosted and slew the old man. "Bobby" as the dog had been labeled, could do little to solve the grizzly scene. So he lay there next to his friend keeping vigil. No one could believe why any would do such an offense, yet none, really, tried to investigate further. All were content to agree how tragic it was, yet seem to let their day move on with out effort to exact any justice.
Every day, Bobby returned to the grave site along the road... and everyday he kept watch. Days, months, years went by, and everyday, Bobby returned to keep his friend company. One day an older ruddy ruff honed look of a man in a chapeau x (I used St. Cuthbert here) made his way by. He was so impressed and touched at Bobby's devotion, and knowing Bobby was in the twilight of his life, he imbued his "spirit of devotion".
Now special travelers devoted to St. Cuthbert may "find" Bobby along the road.
"Bobbys" appear as a common, small silver gray Scott Terrier. They really have no assignable attack value, but special abilities would include the following.
Hear Noise- as defined by spell
Aura of Bless- as defined by spell for any within 5ft of Bobby
PC cannot be surprised if Bobby with in 5ft
Endure Elements -as defined by spell.
and lastly "good nights rest" , negates chance of random dangerous encounter while sleeping.
Dm's determine the reasons for bobby's appearance and length of bobby's stay.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That seems more suitable as an Article submission rather than something that would need a dedicated forum for it. As such, the Articles section already has subsections for a variety of topics. Plus, there is the Readers Forum for discussion of Articles too(they go hand in hand).

Though I am generally more interested in things that the site does not already provide for, and that would therefore enrich the site further, keep the ideas coming! Do not be discouraged though- it is my job to play devil's advocate to a great degree, and you should do so too! Evil Grin Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 9:26 am    Post subject: LONG & Wordy Rebuttal Reply with quote

Cebrion wrote:
That seems more suitable as an Article submission rather than something that would need a dedicated forum for it. As such, the Articles section already has subsections for a variety of topics. Plus, there is the Readers Forum for discussion of Articles too(they go hand in hand).

Though I am generally more interested in things that the site does not already provide for, and that would therefore enrich the site further, keep the ideas coming! Do not be discouraged though- it is my job to play devil's advocate to a great degree, and you should do so too! Evil Grin Laughing


Big C,
As always I enjoy your critiques and would take far more than a bit of constructive criticism to deter me.. Laughing Laughing Laughing I realize it is a thin and narrow "rope" you balance from to determine what goes where, and it would be just as easy to have too many choices as too few. For that part I SALUTE you and your efforts to maintain the "balance".
Putting it in as an Article admission was my first thought, but after the last (Alignments) was unsure Question(still) Question where some things would land. For me (perhaps mistakenly) I viewed the Articles Section as "more complete" items and the forums as more of a venue for discussion of items / ideas. Is this a correct perspective? (reasoning is we later relocated the "alignments" to a discussion.) And just to clarify, I was using "bobby" as an example of an idea that I don't think is "finished" but in need of feed back to make it more finished. It was from that perspective I was referring to a "thread" that would be "grouped" by magical types of items not particularly of one game mechanic set instead of having to comb the "tombs" (based on rule types) for that type "discussion"of idea element.
Idea As to the "more interested" items, being the "FNG" ( as we used to say in the service hehe) I do try to bring a "view" of how the site is seen / used from that perspective. I have found, as in all things, that those that utilize something alot "know" where to look for the less obvious items where to the newbie some things are not as clear.
So with that,
Idea How about "sub links" ( as you have Greytalk Chat, Dragons of "", Giants of"", Undead of"') we could add Rasgon's Monster compendium he has been constructing, or perhaps "Deities of Oerth" piece?
Lastly, "the "last seen" part, while passively interesting to me, is IMO real-estate that could be better used.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I follow the suggestion - I would like to see a forum based on region as well. I think it would have to be meta-region sized to make it work. I have a campaign set in and around Irongate so I am particularly interested in stuff around the Splintered Suns meta-region, so I could see myself checking out such a forum regularly (and hopefully contributing to it). However (devil's advocate voice) does the forum get sufficient traffic/posts to warrant this? Given it has a search engine, most often I go via that and search on "irongate" and it finds the relevant stuff.

I would be interested to see what others think.

Very pleased to hear it was a big year for Canonfire. It is my only link to my fantasy world of choice, other than the collection of dusty tomes on my shelves.

I think the Living Greyhawk guys had meta-regions set up. I've often thought it would be a good way to split the world up into hardcovers for when I buy the rights to Greyhawk and pay the guys here to write it up Happy

Suggested Meta-regions (incomplete):
- Splintered Suns (old aerdy)
- Sheldomar Valley region (Keoland and surrounds)
- Baklunish West
- Iuz Empire and Border States (Fur, Iuz, Sld Lands)
- The North

You get the idea. Long live Greyhawk. RIP Gary.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CastleInspector wrote:
I think I follow the suggestion - I would like to see a forum based on region as well. I think it would have to be meta-region sized to make it work...

...I think the Living Greyhawk guys had meta-regions set up. I've often thought it would be a good way to split the world up into hardcovers for when I buy the rights to Greyhawk and pay the guys here to write it up Happy

Suggested Meta-regions (incomplete):
- Splintered Suns (old aerdy)
- Sheldomar Valley region (Keoland and surrounds)
- Baklunish West
- Iuz Empire and Border States (Fur, Iuz, Sld Lands)
- The North

You get the idea. Long live Greyhawk. RIP Gary.

That is basically the idea. I would most likely set up individual forums by Meta-region, but then have Regional sub-forums for each Meta-region. It would be easy to find exactly whatever section is relevant to the user.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 1:58 am    Post subject: Re: LONG & Wordy Rebuttal Reply with quote

Dark_Lord_Galen wrote:
Putting it in as an Article admission was my first thought, but after the last (Alignments) was unsure Question(still) Question where some things would land. For me (perhaps mistakenly) I viewed the Articles Section as "more complete" items and the forums as more of a venue for discussion of items / ideas. Is this a correct perspective? (reasoning is we later relocated the "alignments" to a discussion.)

You assumption is correct. Articles are for things that are assumed to be "finished". However, even finished things can generate discussion; sometimes lots of it, sometimes not. The Readers Forum did not always exist, and it was in large part created to discuss Articles that generated a lot of comments(buried discussion is just not very good).
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Idea How about "sub links" ( as you have Greytalk Chat, Dragons of "", Giants of"", Undead of"') we could add Rasgon's Monster compendium he has been constructing, or perhaps "Deities of Oerth" piece?

Not bad. Could be workable; deities idea in particular. Rasgon's critters doesn't really suit that format all that well, and it reminds me of a similar thread on the The Infinite Layers of the Abyss. Lots of great stuff in both of those threads, and that content could be show-cased better. It just doesn't seem to suit the particular format in the left margin all that well, it being a listing of things and where they can be found. Some threads chock full of content could be compiled in pdf form though...
Dark_Lord_Galen wrote:
Lastly, "the "last seen" part, while passively interesting to me, is IMO real-estate that could be better used.

I mostly agree. I would much prefer a more visible "Who's On-Line *NOW*" section instead. I cannot count the number of times I have sent a PM off to somebody because I knew they were on-line at the same time I was. Knowing who has just left is not so useful.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 8:22 am    Post subject: Re: LONG & Wordy Rebuttal Reply with quote

Cebrion wrote:
Rasgon's critters doesn't really suit that format all that well, and it reminds me of a similar thread on the The Infinite Layers of the Abyss. Lots of great stuff in both of those threads, and that content could be show-cased better. It just doesn't seem to suit the particular format in the left margin all that well, it being a listing of things and where they can be found. Some threads chock full of content could be compiled in pdf form though...

True, My thoughts were based on the number of hits the "features" column gets versus items listed in the thread. As you have pointed out there is ALOT of good information in both those threads, just thought it was a way to bring it to more "light" to the masses.... maybe the PDF is the compromise.
My last "suggestion" (for now*wink*) would be a section for NPC's. Again nothing version specific, but certainly a place to develop a NPC personality, background, motivations to flesh them and a game out with? I'm certain we all have had "interesting persona" grace our tables. Why not share them? May inspire whole subplots in someone else's campaign.
and with that, I defer the "magic mouth" reagents to others... Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 5:32 pm    Post subject: Re: LONG & Wordy Rebuttal Reply with quote

Dark_Lord_Galen wrote:
My last "suggestion" (for now*wink*) would be a section for NPC's. Again nothing version specific, but certainly a place to develop a NPC personality, background, motivations to flesh them and a game out with? I'm certain we all have had "interesting persona" grace our tables. Why not share them? May inspire whole subplots in someone else's campaign.

You mean like THIS, THIS, THIS, and especially THIS? Wink D'oh! Laughing That Articles section(and Postfest, depending on the topic) is designed exactly for what you just suggested. The Articles and Downloads sections basically feature everything other than stuff that goes in the Forums. The Articles section is made up of many sections with smaller offerings that one can view well enough on a web page. The Downloads section is similar, and generally features much larger offerings.

Some ideas might have already have been implemented(as in the above case) and people just don't realize what they are, or even know about them. I can't force people to actually look at the top bar tabs just below the CANONFIRE! header up there, so how much more obvious do things need to be made? That is a serious question that is needing some answers/suggestions, as this very same thing has happened before in another similar idea thread. We need people to look around the site more, as it is much more than just a forum. Should those top bar bits be moved to the left margin where "Features" are? That is just one idea.

For the most part, I will not be creating any additional forums for things which are already amply covered by Articles + Readers Forum. There could be more exceptions than the LG Region/Meta-Region idea though(which is a really big, really important idea I think), so keep thinking of ideas.

Though I am talking quite a bit about the Forums, please feel free to mention ideas regarding anything and everything about the site.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:52 am    Post subject: Re: LONGER & Wordyer Rebuttal Reply with quote

Cebrion wrote:

You mean like THIS, THIS, THIS, and especially THIS? Wink D'oh! Laughing That Articles section(and Postfest, depending on the topic) is designed exactly for what you just suggested. The Articles and Downloads sections basically feature everything other than stuff that goes in the Forums. The Articles section is made up of many sections with smaller offerings that one can view well enough on a web page. The Downloads section is similar, and generally features much larger offerings.

Some ideas might have already have been implemented(as in the above case) and people just don't realize what they are, or even know about them. I can't force people to actually look at the top bar tabs just below the CANONFIRE! header up there, so how much more obvious do things need to be made?

YES,,, AND NO......

YES, that is A type of information to with I am referring. Smile
NO, that is not the "idea" to which I was suggesting.

I DO UTILIZE THE OTHER LINKS AT THE TOP (though as you point out others may not) THE POINT I AM TRYING TO CONVEY IS OTHER THAN THE "Rogue's Gallery" AN ALTERNATIVE WOULD BE TO DO A FORUM SIMILAR TO GENERAL DISCUSSION. BUT, BY ADDING A "TOPIC" TO THE FORUM INDEX DEDICATED TO NPCS (under general or special projects I would think), IS ALL I WAS SUGGESTING. AND WITHIN THEM, SOMETHING LIKE WHAT IS BEING DONE WITH RASGON'S MONSTER LIST OR ANNAS MAPS COULD RESIDE. Smile Smile
Is it duplication, perhaps, but that "duplication" already exists in the afore mentioned topics. (ie monsters of greyhawk & cartography catagories in articles session), BUT THE DIFFERENCE IS, one is more finished (articles) the other is more discussion(forum thread). The KEY word in my original quote is "develop". I think there are many that may have ideas for an NPC but don't have them quite "fleshed out for Article or Game encounter" is more toward what I was referring.
I realize you could continue to capture this in the Greyhawk General Forum- General Discussions, but as other topics come thru, these would get lost in the mass an require combing through the "tombs" so to speak. Further, as you noted earlier in this thread, articles are "more published" finished items, where as I was referring to round-tabling ideas in more of a forum platform (similar to Annas posting looking for feedback and error correction).
I would also add that if the preferred medium for this is the "article method", you will either get great submissions (which there are already several), incomplete submissions ( which I assume require someone to proof / critique) or no submissions ( which some will choose due to writer block or fear of reject). By a forum platform some of the "bugs" and detail could be covered in mass by the community, and relieve (what I am sure is a heavy) load from the CF Admin BEFORE submitting as an article.
Hopefully that clarifies.
Idea Lastly, I think this does shed light on a possible weakness with in the system. Other than the "features" block is there anywhere the submit article link exists? Question Many may not realize that you can submit to any topic not just those in "features". I realize there is a pull down giving the choices, but if they never enter "submit article" one wouldn't know that. Maybe add similar link in the "articles" selection (kinda like [ Go to Home | Select a New Topic ]? Though one would think since "features" block follows you from page to page it would be enough... Smile Question
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, it is only in the Features section. I have never been all that pleased that the Features are small text, and so not all that obvious. So, that is one major thing that can(and should) change. Perhaps larger, hot-linked icons (like the GH Wiki has) for everything. And "Submit Article" is not really a Feature, and so it would be better put on the top bar next to "Articles" methinks. Perhaps put "Submit Download" in there too, next to "Downloads".

As to developmental topics, like developing NPCs, people can just start threads for that in the appropriate place, like Anna did for her maps. If it is just background, then it could go in WoG Discussion. If it is also going to be chock full of stat blocks/rules too, then it would best for it to go in the appropriate Rules System Forum.
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Cebrion wrote:
No, it is only in the Features section. I have never been all that pleased that the Features are small text, and so not all that obvious. So, that is one major thing that can(and should) change. Perhaps larger, hot-linked icons (like the GH Wiki has) for everything. And "Submit Article" is not really a Feature, and so it would be better put on the top bar next to "Articles" methinks. Perhaps put "Submit Download" in there too, next to "Downloads".

Sounds GOOD..... (A+ to hotlinks!). I agree on the "submit download" piece ( or would it be "Upload yer Download")Confused Question Happy hehe..... That part does seem a bit cumbersome (to me anyway), but hey I've been told by some (insert exwife name here) that I have many troll like personality traits. hehe
And it would be timely too as I have several projects that would fit the need coming to completion the end of this month for your / CF Admin review & approval. (ie calendar, languages, just to name a few)
It may also be helpful to define preferred posting media. I know PDF is kinda universal, but limits who can "home brew" the downloaded info. Most people have MS Office products, but HTML, and java script are out there too.... Donno, that can get into another whole range of topic. (just rambling, still on my first cup of java)
Cebrion wrote:

As to developmental topics, like developing NPCs, people can just start threads for that in the appropriate place, like Anna did for her maps. If it is just background, then it could go in WoG Discussion. If it is also going to be chock full of stat blocks/rules too, then it would best for it to go in the appropriate Rules System Forum.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like the Region/Meta-Region Greyhawk Forums has been given the green light.
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Looks like the Region/Meta-Region Greyhawk Forums has been given the green light.


I like it. Should be very helpful to specific campaigns.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, for that and to potentially serve as a repository for Living Greyhawk Region/Meta-Region info as well. The posting rules are going to be necessarily stringent as to what Living Greyhawk information can be posted though. Writing up the posting guidelines will take nearly as much time as it will to construct the forums themselves. This forum may very well end up being like a sword- either you can make use of it properly and impress people with your awesomeness, or you can screw around with it and chop your own head off. That will have everything to do with people being respectful of the IP/posting guidelines.

Enough of that though. On to more ideas! Happy
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Construction has begun on the Region/Meta-Region forums. Pending the approval of the the format and posting guidelines, these forums will become active soon enough. They will be revealed when all is in place. Also, the forum categories will roughly double in size due to these additions, as there are quite a few Regions/Meta-Regions.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:55 pm    Post subject: Re: *Warning*A bit of a LONG Read Reply with quote

Dark_Lord_Galen wrote:
There once was a Grey Friar that was known by all in his hommlet. He sastained himself megerly, yet always had kind words for any that spoke to him, but seldom did he choose to initiate the conversations. Some saw him as a beggar, others as a hermit, but everyone agreed him harmless. Even with his meager funds, he always had something for a local stray dog. The dog, of a scottish terrier look, was nothing fearsome to be hold nor did he work or entertain for his meals. He was, however, a good & faithful companion, following the friar as he made his way through the day.
Sadly, one eve, the friar met with ill tidings... Brigands on the road, accosted and slew the old man. "Bobby" as the dog had been labeled, could do little to solve the grizzly scene. So he lay there next to his friend keeping vigil. No one could believe why any would do such an offense, yet none, really, tried to investigate further. All were content to agree how tragic it was, yet seem to let their day move on with out effort to exact any justice.
Every day, Bobby returned to the grave site along the road... and everyday he kept watch. Days, months, years went by, and everyday, Bobby returned to keep his friend company. One day an older ruddy ruff honed look of a man in a chapeau x (I used St. Cuthbert here) made his way by. He was so impressed and touched at Bobby's devotion, and knowing Bobby was in the twilight of his life, he imbued his "spirit of devotion".
Now special travelers devoted to St. Cuthbert may "find" Bobby along the road.
"Bobbys" appear as a common, small silver gray Scott Terrier. They really have no assignable attack value, but special abilities would include the following.
Hear Noise- as defined by spell
Aura of Bless- as defined by spell for any within 5ft of Bobby
PC cannot be surprised if Bobby with in 5ft
Endure Elements -as defined by spell.
and lastly "good nights rest" , negates chance of random dangerous encounter while sleeping.
Dm's determine the reasons for bobby's appearance and length of bobby's stay.


Going slightly off-topic here, but I really love this and would like to see it made into a full article. I love using real world folklore and history in my GH stuff, and love the story of Greyfriars Bobby. Please work this up into an article! It also reminds me of Saint Guinefort, not thematically, but in having a dog who is something like a saint. In fact this makes me think a cool subject for a post-fest, or even just a working thread like rasgon's monsters thread would be "saints of GH."
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DLG,

I would also like to add this is perfect for greytalk topics as well. So the threads and forums work well but greytalk is also a good place for it. After all many of my posts started as greytalk topics.

Later

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:31 pm    Post subject: Re: *Warning*A bit of a LONG Read Reply with quote

smillan_31 wrote:
Dark_Lord_Galen wrote:

Going slightly off-topic here, but I really love this and would like to see it made into a full article. I love using real world folklore and history in my GH stuff, and love the story of Greyfriars Bobby. Please work this up into an article! It also reminds me of Saint Guinefort, not thematically, but in having a dog who is something like a saint. In fact this makes me think a cool subject for a post-fest, or even just a working thread like rasgon's monsters thread would be "saints of GH."

@Smillan, Thanks, glad you enjoyed the concept, & like you, I enjoy tying "real-world elements" into campaign settings. It seems to add depth and as they say "the truth is often stranger than fiction".
I will endeavor to "polish" this into a more complete "article fashion" but would happily take any feedback / input that would add color to it in a "greyhawk fashion" before submitting to the ethereal powers to be. Evil Grin
argon wrote:

I would also like to add this is perfect for greytalk topics as well. So the threads and forums work well but greytalk is also a good place for it. After all many of my posts started as greytalk topics.

@Argon, I do agree 100% to that! Happy and I can certainly be one to tell all reading that the reception / camaraderie is well received. And it also certainly is a great "watering hole" to "grow / groom" thoughts and ideas. Lastly it would certainly not be the intent to redirect use of that resource in favor of a "new" thread.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cebrion wrote:

Enough of that though. On to more ideas! Happy

Idea
How about a place to list pending article submissions? Thought here is would give everyone an idea of backlog, and potential submissions under scrutiny. Would not have to be much more than maybe a submitted date and topic (or the brief hook). Could also help those submitting as to the status of their submissions. (once it goes in its kinda a dark tunnel till it emerges out the other side)
Idea
And or a request / need article spot? Thought here is akin to an open items / "wants" list. Might inspire some to take up the quill if they know what is in demand so to speak. I realize this could be captured under the general spot in forum, but this would give the Admin (aka u) a place to capture all request elements and "check them off" as they are taken and acted on with in the article / forum tools.
Just more ramblings from the Dark and Dusty places of the world below.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that the "Upcoming Articles" spotlight is a particularly good idea.

As to the other idea of posting a list of ideas and then ticking them off as they get done, that one resonates less with me(but only the format really). The reason for this is that many people have many different takes on the very same topic. That could be due to them using various eras of published background material, something they made whole cloth, and/or that has been influenced by various editions of the game rules. One topic where this has been more evident than others is deities/faiths/churches. There have been many different takes on those particular topics, and all perspectives are welcome. Accordingly, there could be a lot of variety among six article submissions on the very same subject, but we would potentially lose out of more perspectives if we tick the topic off the list after getting the first submission on it.

Some inspiration is already up, and they are the subsections of the Articles section itself. I would like to add some expanded descriptions in the headings of those subsections though, similar to what we do with descriptions of each of the subforums. If somebody wants to know if any idea has been done to death, they can just look at the Article section to see what has been written about. We can surely be more proactive about a letting people know of Postfests too, or on slow news week post a list of ideas for Article submissions on the Canonfire! Crier.

So, the second idea is a good one too. I just think it should be implemented in a little bit different way. I am very interested in reading peoples' opinions on this so as to see which form of presentation people would like the most- forum, blog announcement, some other idea, all of the above, etc.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cebrion wrote:

As to the other idea of posting a list of ideas and then ticking them off as they get done, that one resonates less with me(but only the format really).

Agreed, the method didn't sit well with me either, but couldn't think of another way to manage it.

Cebrion wrote:

One topic where this has been more evident that others is deities/faiths/churches. There have been many different takes on those topics, and all are perspectives are welcome. Accordingly, there could be a lot of variety among six article submissions on the very same subject, but we would potentially lose out of more perspectives if we tick the topic off the list after getting the first submission on it.

True and yes that method does support more dialogue than to have a "done / Not done"
Cebrion wrote:

I would like to add some expanded descriptions in the headings of those subsections though, similar to what we do with descriptions of each of the subforums. If somebody wants to know if any idea has been done to death, they can just look at the Article section to see what has bee written about.

Right EXACTLY WHERE I was thinking
Cebrion wrote:

We can surely be more proactive about a letting people know of Postfests too, or on slow news week post a list of ideas for Article submissions on the Canonfire! Crier.

Great on the Postfest. Especially for those of us less skilled with the quill.Wink Admittedly I dodged the last one as I don't utilize a lot of Psionics (except in certain monster types). Though with more prep I may have took a stab at it. (you know how us dark guys are about taking stabs) Evil Grin
As for utilizing Post list ideas as a "filler" I think that's a great fit. Certainly doesn't have to be something chiseled into the wall every day. This might have a "box" aka focal point, like article submissions, that you could "collect ideas", sort and summarize from for the filler posting. just an expansion on the thought. Of course the down side of that it puts more on the "admin" side to filter through than to just have a "bucket".
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