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Sun May 19, 2024 4:45 am  
Looking for information on the Duchy of Berghof

I've found a few lightly talked about website that delve into the Duchy of Berghof (located below the Sea Princes) at https://i.imgur.com/YXDgmYP.jpeg but nothing very detailed. I hear this is the place to come to, to find what one is looking for so here I am.

I am looking for a place that really delves into the Duchy of Berghof in more detail. Does a place like this exist? I'd appreciate any help I can get.
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Sun May 19, 2024 5:57 am  

I'm assuming you already know about the old modules UK2 The Sentinel & UK3 The Gauntlet? That's where Berghof was created.

Greyhawk: The Adventure Begins was the next to develop the place, with a few mentions of the slave revolt & overthrow of the Brotherhood there. I believe these were carried forward into Living Greyhawk Gazetteer.

The guy to ask about this would likely be Mike Bridges of Greyhawkery blog. He ran a Sea Princes campaign for a long time and has developed a lot for the area. He gave me one of his hand-drawn maps of the area at a Gary Con years ago.
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Sun May 19, 2024 6:34 am  

Yea I know of the two modules, but was looking for websites that flesh out the towns and such a little more.
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Wed May 22, 2024 11:29 am  

There was a Living Greyhawk Column web article in the old D&D 3.5 archives on the Duchy of Berghof. It has 14 captures on the Wayback Machine. Refer to http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=lg/lgmp/20051213a.
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Fri May 24, 2024 7:16 am  

Taking a break from exam grading, I see lots of lovely posts. Here're a few resources that are relevant to Keoland and the Hold of the Sea Princes in general. Later, I will try to find and post past CF! forum discussions that focused a bit on the Duchy of Berghof.

• Samwise, “Grand Sheldomar Timeline, Part I,” Canonfire! (Nov. 24, 2004), http://www.canonfire.com/cf/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=506.
• Samwise, “The Rhola and the Toli: the Battle for Jeklea Bay,” Canonfire! (Sept. 18, 2005), http://www.canonfire.com/cf/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=731.
• Samwise, “The Yaheetes and Tyrus: The Wars Against the Hand and the Eye in the Sheldomar,” Canonfire! (Sept. 24, 2005), http://www.canonfire.com/cf/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=733.
• Samwise, “Grand Sheldomar Timeline Expansion and Revision, Part II,” Canonfire! (Dec. 11, 2005), http://www.canonfire.com/cf//modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=753.
• Samwise, “Grand Sheldomar Timeline Expansion and Revision, Part III,” Canonfire! (Jan. 12, 2006), http://www.canonfire.com/cf/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=760.
• Kirt Wackford, “The Geopolitical History of Keoland,” Oerth Journal #16 (Jun. 1, 2006), at 30–75.
• Michael Bridges, “Unconquered Hold of the Sea Princes,” Oerth Journal #32 (Mar. 2020), at 28–36.
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Sun May 26, 2024 6:41 am  

Here's some some early 2005 discussion of the Hold vis-à-vis UK 2 The Sentinel, http://www.canonfire.com/cf/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=894, Woesinger's 2006 article on the Duchy of Berghof (which expands on his "Mysterious Places" article for Living Greyhawk), http://www.canonfire.com/cf//modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=814, some December 2015 discussion on the Hold, http://www.canonfire.com/cf/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=6218, and a 2022 Greyhawkery post by Mike Bridges / Mortellan, http://greyhawkery.blogspot.com/2022/09/new-towns-of-sea-princes-576-cy.html.

There was a lot of great discussion about the Hold in the years following when Samwise posted his first Grand Sheldomar Timeline article (in September 2004), and then again in 2014 to 2015.

In a moment when the forum search engine was working moderately well, I scoured the forums and compiled a fourteen-page "Notes from Canonfire re Hold of the Sea Princes" in DOCX. If anyone would like it, "message" me your preferred email address (click my username?), and I will send it to you. (Besides the post title and url, the document includes either brief parenthetical explanations of the discussion, or in some cases excerpts that I found particularly useful.)
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Sun May 26, 2024 9:20 am  

Is Berghof part of the Sea Princes or is it independent?
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Sun May 26, 2024 9:26 am  

Berghof is part of the Sea Princes.
It was independent way back when, but it has been part of that nation since the Sea Princes were founded.
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