Joined: Feb 16, 2003 Posts: 3733 Location: So. Cal
Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:23 am Post subject: New CANONFIRE! Website Theme Feedback
You may have noticed some changes lately. We are trying out a new "83' Boxed Set" styled theme for the site. It will be implemented piecemeal over the next week or so, and much will still be changing.
We are also reorganizing the Articles section of the site(to begin with). This will NOT affect any submitted articles that have yet to be posted, nor should it affect any of the other already published Articles.
Everything on the site should be working as it was prior to the implementation of the new theme graphics, but we'd like people to report on anything on the site that isn't working properly.
---The CANONFIRE! Staff
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Joined: Jun 29, 2001 Posts: 1345 Location: Wichita, KS, USA
Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:52 pm Post subject:
Non-hyperlink text doesn't display in Firefox 3.0.1 in the left-nav: so, for example, all I see under Who's Online at the moment is "25" for my PM count.... _________________ Allan Grohe (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Comments on articles are STILL disabled. You guys have been told how to correct this, without reallowing spam attacks, at least twice.
We were told the new theme (which is ugly by 1997 standards, and completely atrocious by 2008 standards) would be optional. It's not.
Please publish the site's traffic data that supports your assertion that a simple ugly redesign of the site's graphical elements has attracted new traffic.
For those, most of you I'll assume, who missed the conversation, let me repost the proposed site revision agenda drawn up by chatdemon (Rich, ratlord, whatever :P ) in april or may of this year, shared with Gary Holian at that time, then shared with the users on Greytalk chat a month or two later. Keep in mind, this has been ignored in favor of a silly graphical makeover.
Restoration and updating of GreyTalk archive, integrated into CF's search function
Improvement of Search functionality, possibly implementing a google widget
Reimplementation of Phorum software to complement GreyTalk list, including implementation of robust RSS options and forum or email access to posting and reading of the discussions
Development of php/irc scripts for reporting real time and archival chat statistics onsite
Hosting of Codex of Greyhawk article archive, integrated into CF's search function
Discussion with WotC about hosting a perpetual archive of LG scenarios and documents
Initiating a dialog with LG players to offer them forum space and material hosting to perpetuate the campaign after WotC discontinues support
Aggressive development of a “GH 4e” area on the site, with possible attempt to win favored or semi-official fansite status from WotC
Development of forum and material sections dedicated to the GH related products from companies including Pied Piper, Paizo and Troll Lord, with attempt to win endorsement from those companies as favored/semi-official fan sites
Development of CF branded merchandise store (cafepress or the like) to generate income to offset costs
Development of affiliate type rpg books/materials shop on CF, to generate income to offset costs and better serve as a one stop site for all gaming needs
Development of exclusive, pdf format adventures and source material for downloads
Discussion with Denis (Maldin) about implementation of a more robust GH website ring and archive of links to other websites, establishing CF as the definative GH portal site
Reworking of the article index into more intuitive categories
Improvement of the user journals functionality for use as proper blogs
Offer hosting of GH related discussion lists, integrated with Phorum software to provide archival and robust RSS options
Develop full integration of user accounts across the site, forum, wiki and chat
Develop and/or implement php/irc scripts to automate user registration in chat when registration is performed on the site
Reorganization and definition of Administrative tasks
Aggressive promotion of postfest type activities, with prizes for participation
Pursue better editorial processing of submitted articles for spelling, grammar and readability aspects, retroactive to polish existing articles as well
Pursue better keywording of submitted articles to improve search results, on site and via search engines, retroactive to include existing articles as well
Development of banners and buttons in various standard formats to encourage users to promote CF on their websites and blogs
Possible development of CF themed podcast or video blog
Aggressive encouragement of CF admin staff to maintain blogs on the site to keep users up to date on current projects and future plans
Recruitment and implementation of timely rpg industry news feature
Redesign of the product reviews section to function as a complete GH materials catalog, with reviews and links to websites where materials may be purchased used or in pdf formats
Elimination or redesign of the downloads section to function more as standard website pages, for search functionality
Implementation of PHPnuke/PHPBBs user karma system to automate access and restrict spammers
Aggressively solicit contribution of material from now defunct or abandoned sites and services to create a definitive archive of GH fan material
Aggressively solicit existing GH sites and services for hosting or mirroring on CF
Expand forum and discussion lists to include more general D&D and gaming discussions, separate from and secondary in focus to GH discussions, but to open the site to users less attached to GH as a setting
Create and maintain a #canonfire irc chat alongside #greytalk for real time help and feedback
Encourage development of affiliated chat channels, such as irc game channels, to be promoted on CF
Explore creating and maintaining a dedicated exclusive chat server (irc.canonfire.com)
Creation and development of a new CF endorsed ezine specifically dedicated to GH in the current D&D format
Refocus or replace OJ as the CF endorsed general GH ezine for other editions/games.
Restoration and improvement of article comment functionality
Joined: May 14, 2002 Posts: 429 Location: Renton WA
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 9:42 pm Post subject:
I have a suggestion about the background...instead of black, how about a darker grey color instead (by darker I mean a fairly dark shade of grey--slate perhaps, not darker then the current black color... which would be difficult to accomplish)... it would be easier on the eyes when contrasted with the gold edgings, and would help reinfoce the GREYhawk theme.
Joined: Feb 16, 2003 Posts: 3733 Location: So. Cal
Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:10 am Post subject:
The graphics currently on the site are test images. I would have preferred that they not be put up until the theme was complete, that being an "83' Boxed Set" theme. Yes, it is meant to look retro, and no, there should not be a black background. It should be brown leather, embossed and recessed in some areas. And no, nobody lied when they said there would be multiple themes. It is intended that there be 4-6 themes to choose from, but the light and dark generic themes have simply not been implemented yet. Gary is in charge of that stuff, so ask him about it via e-mail or PM through Canonfire! rather than on GREYtalk, as he checks those messages more often(I think). I’ll bug Gary about getting the generic themes put in place too. I'd prefer that they would be available, and that the current in-progress theme be side-lined until fully developed and then inserted as an option. In the mean time, please excuse us if real life intrudes upon what we'd like to do(and in how timely a manner we do it).
Despotrix incorrectly states that nobody listens to advice from past admins/site developers, or anyone for that matter. This is obviously flat out untrue(what thread are you reading right now?). Maybe she is upset that she herself was not purposely sought out and asked her opinion before anything was changed. I don't know. Well, here's your(Despotrix) chance to be constructive and offer up some ideas. I know you have some experience in these things, so put forth your own ideas for everyone to comment on. The floor is open to everyone here. That we actually open threads to garner feedback on *ANYTHING* from *ANYONE* is not quite the thing that a bunch of close-minded people who are not open to suggestions would do, don't you think? I myself and others have spent more than a few hours chatting with Rich "Chatdemon/Ratlord" about ideas for the site, including his list of ideas just posted by Despotrix. We'd already come up with many of those ideas ourselves before he offered up his list(he then asked to see my rudimentary list, which I showed him). Rich's list is pretty dang good though if you ask me, and accomplishing just half of it would be a vast improvement to the site. For me, a bit more organization is the most important thing. Messing with the "83' Boxed Set" theme is just for the fun of it.
Comments have not been added back to articles as there is a forum to discuss articles. I'm not sure if that will stay as it is or if comments will come back, but I think the prevailing opinion is that it is better to encourage *discussion* of articles more so than *just comments* on them.
Also, people can always PM me with questions and suggestions regarding anything. As there is a forum thread for suggestions too, and as many people often wonder about the same things, you might as well post them here because then the entire community can then see the questions and the answers.