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    Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:12 am  
    The "official" 2010 Greyhawk Webcomic thread!

    It's a new year and time to get a fresh thread going for the comic. In order to get newer readers off to a good start I've decided to try and reorganize some of my main "themes" and "storylines" so that they are readable outside the normal posting order. Any other reccomendations are appreciated. Home page The Graz'zt Show Cultist Saga Gods in Space World of Golarion Greylore Cover Parodies

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    Sat Jan 02, 2010 4:23 pm  

    Good job, Mort. This reorganization is going to make it very easy for new Canoneers to catch up on your work. Happy

    And I'm looking forward to seeing what you come up with in this new year. Wink
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    Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:23 pm  

    And a new article post as well!
    http://www.canonfire.com/cf/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=987&mode=&order=0&thold=0

    Someone has been busy!
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    Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:50 pm  

    Speaking of being busy, Maldin and I have been plotting on this week's effort:

    http://www.greyhawkonline.com/wogcomic/title/wogstrip257a.htm

    Check it out.
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    Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:09 pm  

    "Plotting"? Oooh, score 1 for the pun!
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    Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:51 pm  

    Very nice and thanks for introducing Maldin's work.

    But, I have to say, Lolth's reporting was way off. It wasn't the cultists that sank Doom, Nakimas just had some gas. Wink
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    Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:34 pm  

    Can't trust demonlords, that's right Wolfsire.

    Anyone take a stab at identifying the Lords of Evil yet?
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    Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:58 am  

    Ok... I'll take a wild stab at it. I swear I do NOT have inside information!

    1 Surtur
    2 Azmodeus
    3 Shaktari
    4 Incabulos
    5 Nerull
    6 Syrul
    7 Grummsh
    8 Meyanok
    9 Kurtulmak

    I'm pretty sure I've seen 1 and 8 somewhere in your comics before, but I can't find them!

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    Maldin wrote:
    Ok... I'll take a wild stab at it. I swear I do NOT have inside information!

    1 Surtur
    2 Azmodeus
    3 Shaktari
    4 Incabulos
    5 Nerull
    6 Syrul
    7 Grummsh
    8 Meyanok
    9 Kurtulmak

    I'm pretty sure I've seen 1 and 8 somewhere in your comics before, but I can't find them!

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    Alright! The game is afoot. Here is my answer so far.
    1. Not Surtur, I avoided giant gods. My hint for #1 is he has never been seen in W.o.G before but he is a D&D god.
    2. Correct. The Ruby Rod and the curly goat are the clues. Good job.
    3. Shakira-wha? No Maldin but nice guess. This goddess has appeared in W.o.G before. Try again.
    4. Incabulos, a given.
    5. Nerull, also a given due to prior episodes.
    6. Syrul. Correct. She's been in W.o.G many times and her hag-nose is unmistakable.
    7. Gruumsh. Also correct. Lords of Evil gotta represent the orcs after all.
    8. Wrong subrace. This god has appeared in W.o.G before.
    9. Not Kurtulmak, probably the second hardest to guess next to #1. But the answer is closer than you think.

    ;)
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    mortellan wrote:
    Alright! The game is afoot. Here is my answer so far.
    1. Not Surtur, I avoided giant gods. My hint for #1 is he has never been seen in W.o.G before but he is a D&D god.
    3. Shakira-wha? No Maldin but nice guess. This goddess has appeared in W.o.G before. Try again.
    8. Wrong subrace. This god has appeared in W.o.G before.
    9. Not Kurtulmak, probably the second hardest to guess next to #1. But the answer is closer than you think.

    ;)


    I'd guess the following for those yet unrevealed:

    1) Zarus, God of Human Racial Superiority from Races of Destiny
    3) Beltar in her Marilith form
    8) Mictlantecuhtli, Olman God of Death
    9) Meyanok, Touv God of Serpents, Discord, Famine, Darkness and Poison (previously thought to be #8 by Maldin)
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    Dayyum kwint! I thought Zarus would've kept everyone busy for longer. :P

    Yeah he is depicted as a handsome man with golden glowing skin. He is in there for GVD cause I know he'd get a kick out of that.
    Meyanok was a tricky one, I needed a Touv deity represented (even though I swore I'd never use em) and wikis tell me that he appears as a snake coiled around a skull, which in the same entry is the same description as its holy symbol. Rather redundant but okay that was the clue.
    Beltar of course can appear as many things. A Marilith was one of the few that would fit on the panel. (Dragon, Beholder)
    Mict of course appeared in Gods in Space. In hindsight I should've used Camazotz a bat god. Too much snake in that picture. One last thing, its crazy how many of the "Olman" gods are evil. Why is that?
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    Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:49 pm  

    Because SKR is a wicked, wicked man?

    I'm just sayin'...
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    Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:23 pm  

    Doh!! I knew that #3 was a marilith, forgot that Beltar had a marilith form, and was wondering why you hadn't used Beltar. I claim a half point! And a half point on Meyanok. ;)

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    http://www.greyhawkonline.com/wogcomic/title/wogstrip258a.htm
    Back to our story in progress...
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    Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:50 pm  

    Murlynd shot "Boo?" Shocked

    What the heck is Minsk supposed to do now!? Confused

    I worry about you sometimes Mort. Laughing Laughing Laughing

    Great stuff. Wink
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    mortellan wrote:
    Dayyum kwint! I thought Zarus would've kept everyone busy for longer. :P

    Yeah he is depicted as a handsome man with golden glowing skin. He is in there for GVD cause I know he'd get a kick out of that.?


    I thought it might be him because of the illustrations in RofD, but you confirmed it when you said it was a "D&D god" and not necessarily a Greyhawk god...

    mortellan wrote:
    Mict of course appeared in Gods in Space. In hindsight I should've used Camazotz a bat god. Too much snake in that picture. One last thing, its crazy how many of the "Olman" gods are evil. Why is that?


    I liked the "answer is closer than you think" comment...

    Nice little quiz...Seems the overcrowded Greyhawk pantheon is getting ever more so Smile ...

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    I’m so jealous. Those things can use there own mouths as slow cookers, and can match the décor of any kitchen. Zag looks well basted. Splorch!
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    kwint wrote:
    I thought it might be him because of the illustrations in RofD, but you confirmed it when you said it was a "D&D god" and not necessarily a Greyhawk god...
    I guess I can't blame ya for having a sharp eye. ;)

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    I liked the "answer is closer than you think" comment...

    Again, you knew how to read my clues. Good work.

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    Nice little quiz...Seems the overcrowded Greyhawk pantheon is getting ever more so Smile ...

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    Wolfsire wrote:
    I’m so jealous. Those things can use there own mouths as slow cookers, and can match the décor of any kitchen. Zag looks well basted. Splorch!


    And thanks to Murlynd they are well ventilated. ;)
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    http://www.greyhawkonline.com/wogcomic/title/wogstrip259a.htm

    Hot off the presses!
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    http://www.greyhawkonline.com/wogcomic/title/wogstrip260a.htm

    DING!
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    Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:58 am  

    Heh. My pc is now in the Bright Desert and had to rig up some protective eye gear to prevent blindness Exclamation I should hit up my DM for xp Razz
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    http://www.greyhawkonline.com/wogcomic/title/wogstrip261a.htm

    Fun!
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    You are an evil DM.
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    Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:41 pm  

    mortellan wrote:
    "Don't split the party" is a common mantra for RPGs who like to play it safe. It's also never done that way in any novel, movie or comic I've ever seen.


    The Starfleet Field Manual actually says that in a situation involving danger or hostility, any away team with at least one officer must be composed of as many of the ship's high-ranking officers as possible, so as to not split the command structure. Only non-essential personal are to remain on the ship.


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    By extension, since dragons are hoarders and must sometimes go far afield to find more treasure for heroes to take, this means that they may not even be in the same zipcode as their lair when randomly encountered.


    By extension, there must then be a chance to encounter the horde while the dragon is far away!
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    Kirt wrote:
    The Starfleet Field Manual actually says that in a situation involving danger or hostility, any away team with at least one officer must be composed of as many of the ship's high-ranking officers as possible, so as to not split the command structure. Only non-essential personal are to remain on the ship.

    Ah that explains it. Would redshirts be the equivalent of goblin henchmen in this case?


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    Good thing for me that you're not in my gaming group. ;)
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    mortellan wrote:
    Ah that explains it. Would redshirts be the equivalent of goblin henchmen in this case?


    As long as they don't have names.
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    http://www.greyhawkonline.com/wogcomic/title/wogstrip262a.htm
    Speaking of names Kirt, here is some good ones...
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    A Red Dragon with no treasure!? Shocked

    A love lorn Tharizdun cultist? Gotta love it! Happy

    Keep 'em coming Mort. Cool
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    Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:42 pm  

    Sorry Mystic, couldn't technically keep em coming. But I'm reloading for next week!

    http://www.greyhawkonline.com/wogcomic/title/wogstrip263a.htm
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    Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:59 pm  

    EEEK! That is one big ogre!
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    Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:58 pm  

    Mort, I enjoyed the memorial to your friend. Sounds like someone I would have enjoyed meeting. I'm glad he "lives on" in your home game. Happy

    Well done, my friend. Cool
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    Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:44 pm  

    Thanks Scholar! He was definitely the hub of my circle of friends. Things just aren't quite the same ya'know?

    p.s. Expect alot of reading material from me tomorrow. Muahaha!
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    http://www.greyhawkonline.com/wogcomic/title/wogstrip264a.htm

    Just in the nick of time. Bombs away!
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    Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:47 pm  
    I wasted how many mintues....?

    Hi all -
    [uck, that was long. I love the picture of Rasgon, and that is EXATCLY how I imagine him - with all that Greyhawk Knowledge.
    I only have one quibble with it all. Well, actually I might have more quibbles if I had "demonic" enhanced knowledge like Rasgon (Because although Pholtus doesn't believe in other gods, he has a wild imagination, which allows him to permit other gods and demons, but not obscure rules or even more obscure Greyhawk Lore). My quibble is the "Ivid the Undying" picture. Because I happen to have a picture of the actual product. Erik Mona actually produced it while he was with WotC/TSR (likely given to him by Lisa "Greyhawk MegaBabe" Stevens - who was the 90's Greyhawk Brand Manager).
    I've uploaded the 3 pictures to your site.

    Front of Ivid the Undying


    Back of Ivid the Undying



    Erik provided this picture to be what he thought the cover artwork should be. However, I've always thought the picture looked my in line with Iuz than what I imagined what Ivid would look like (besides, that throne doesn't look like Malachite [a green stone]).


    I'm sure Erik provided these on the WotC forums - I think it was around the time that the LGG was produced, but I can't be sure.

    Be Well. Be Well Undying.
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    Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:13 pm  

    Thanks Theocrat! Very cool. I'll try n edit that page with the new cover!
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    I prefer this picture to the current PDF cover floating about:



    It was simple to mock up in Photoshop. The product code fonts were based on those of products from that time, but the title font was of my choosing. I think it evokes the right feel. Cool
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    Re: I wasted how many mintues....?

    TheocratIssak wrote:
    Hi all -
    [uck, that was long. I love the picture of Rasgon, and that is EXATCLY how I imagine him - with all that Greyhawk Knowledge.


    The resemblance is uncanny! I am 96 years old!
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    Awesome, Mort! Totally awesome!

    Things I hadn't "known" before and cool memories, all rolled into one. Great stuff! Happy

    And we all appreciate you giving Rasgon a "new" avatar, one more in line with his actual -- or imagined -- appearance! Laughing Laughing

    Just having fun with you, Grey Sage! Wink

    You never disappoint Mort. Where would "we" be without you? I shudder to think! Evil Grin
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    http://www.greyhawkonline.com/wogcomic/title/wogstrip265a.htm

    Here we go...
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    I laughed so hard I almost "made brown" myself! Laughing Laughing Laughing

    I love "the Cultists" Mort, keep 'em coming! Cool
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    Mystic-Scholar wrote:
    I laughed so hard I almost "made brown" myself! Laughing Laughing Laughing

    I love "the Cultists" Mort, keep 'em coming! Cool


    (*bubbagump ships a box of 'Depends' undergarments to the scholar*)

    These should come in handy if you need to 'make brown' again. Remember, you're not getting any younger...Old Friend. Cool
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    bubbagump wrote:
    (*bubbagump ships a box of 'Depends' undergarments to the scholar*)


    I knew you'd be willing to share your "Depends" with an old friend, Bubbagump. Evil Grin

    Thanks! Laughing
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    http://www.greyhawkonline.com/wogcomic/title/wogstrip266a.htm
    Who remembers this old nugget of 1st edition?
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    Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:37 pm  

    I once played in a campaign where the DM insistened that because it was called Dungeons and DRAGONS, it was necessary to multiply their HD by 10. He laughed when I broughte but he subdule rule. He he.
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    Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:13 pm  

    Very nice trip down memory lane, Mort. Thanks! Wink

    Yeah, WotC keeps the changes coming, that's for sure. Razz
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    Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:26 pm  

    http://www.greyhawkonline.com/wogcomic/title/wogstrip267a.htm

    Anyone fancy a game? Post your picks in this thread or email me at 'mortellan@gmail.com'
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    Theocrat For the WIN!

    Hi All -
    I do declare that if I do not win - I will pull the plug on this whole damn thing.
    I'm not just talking to Mort here - I'm talking to all you heathens.
    If you do not vote for Pholtus to win the whole damn tournament....WoG Comic goes the way of the Dodo bird (not Ice Age the movie style either).

    In fact, here it is and why Pholtus will win....he doesn't believe in the other gods - thus there is no way they can beat him. When he goes against Celestian, there is no competition. Celestian would walk away from the court anyway. Next up, Vatun is a made up god by a demi-god (right, or is the Theocrat thinking that wrong?).
    So no matter what Pholtus wins.
    The vote better be rigged, jigged and multi-voted for Pholtus to win or Else, WoG goes away....I have Theocratic powers!

    Be Well. Be Well Voted.
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    Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:14 am  

    Lol!! Well thats a vote for Pholtus. I don't think I need to ask about the others, eh?
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    Wee Jas Favoritism

    Hi all -
    COMPLAINT TIME......did you see the WoG Comic main page? The icon section leading to the latest comic is of Wee Jas, that little tart. So this is some conspiracy - putting her sexy little tartness on the front page so that people will subconsciously vote for her. Well NO. I won't stand for this non-sense. Mort either puts Pholtus on the cover page or he does something else - but I will not stand (or sit at the desk and rant with my keyboard) for this crap.
    I didn't notice this in my last post or else I would have ranted in that post - but if this isn't changed, then I'm going to use my very delusional Theocratic powers on the WoG comic Web site and then you'll all be sorry. And trust me...we don't want that - because if we want Mort to go back 300 episodes, he needs all the support we can give him - but that won't be necessary if I don't get my way.

    Be Well. Be Well Pholtused.
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    So? Sixteen picks, eh? A "winner" from each? Ok . . .

    Wee Jas, Kord, Norebo, Lendor, Zilchus, Heironeous, Fharlanghn, Oldamara, Zagyg, Mayaheine, Obad-hai, Pelor, Rao, Boccob (duh) and for my friend, the all powerful Theocrat -- Pholtus! Evil Grin

    The sixteenth pair is a coin toss, but I'll go with Wastri, since he seems to like humans. rolleyes
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    Theocrat: Whoops! Hey other media don't get chided when they show their marquee talents. Would the PGA not show Tiger Woods for the Masters? Unthinkable! Well okay, thats a bad comparison but you get my drift.

    Mystic: Thanks for the entry. Good to see Theocrat has someone on his side. ;)
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    Quick question here, Mort: Are we supposed to vote for our favorite deities, or which ones we honestly think would win?

    Also, you're mean for pitting Fharlanghn and Delleb against each other. I like them both, plus, they're buds!....ish.
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    I voted for my favorites, Talin, if that helps any. Wink

    But that's just me . . . I root for my favorite "team." Evil Grin
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    Talin: What Mystic said. There is no good way to gauge it. For example if Theocrat wants to start a drive to get Pholtus to win his bracket, more power to him. We know which are more popular in fandom, but online polls/contests can sometimes surprise ya.
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    Starting a Drive

    Hi all -
    Oh, I'm not starting a drive for Pholtus to win...I'm pushing some threats here...Lets get that right, right now. I don't want no hussy tart winning when she shows some leg and Cleveland (yeah, that's what I call it so I don't get busted when looking at that sweet spot between the boo...oops).
    If you don't vote for Pholtus to win the whole damn tournament...there's going to be some damage done. Let Me Tell You. I'm not just ranting my delusional rants here....Pholtus will win, or you will all be damned...

    Be Well. Be Well in Cleveland!
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    Alrighty...

    Wee Jas vs. Bralm: Wee Jas (Bralm? Seriously?)

    Kord vs. Vatun: Kord. Chaotic Good is more awesome than CN. Also, not trapped in some undisclosed location.

    Norebo vs. Syrul: Norebo. Fortune favors the bold...

    Lendor vs. Pyremius: Enh, I'll say Lendor, cuz he fathered a number of other deities for whom I'm casting my vote. But he's not really a riot at parties, I'd wager.

    Tharizdun vs. Olidammara: Olidamarra! Gee, do I cast vote for the being that will end EVERYTHING, or the charming cutie who just bought a round of drinks for everyone? This is a tough one.

    Incabulous vs. Boccob: Boccob. Boccob may not care, but that means he also doesn't care enough to go out of his way to spread disease and misery. This is a plus in my book. Also, I dig the art for him in Deities & Demigods.

    Zagyg vs. St. Cuthbert: Zagyg. Zagyg is a loon, but Cuthbert's hats are silly.

    Wastri vs. Raxivort: Heehee, okay, this is probably the fairest matchup so far. I'll say Wastri, because the phrase "The Hopping Prophet" cracks me up just about every time.

    Hextor vs. Zilchus: Hextor. LE villains are often the most interesting, IMHO, and since they, too, are interested in preserving order, this can lead to one of those "teaming up with your enemies against a greater threat" plotlines. That said, if we could keep Hextor in his pale, dark-haired bishonen form, rather than his, er, less esthetically pleasing "war form," that would make me all the happier.

    Pholtus vs. Celestian: Celestian. Sorry, Theocrat. I have enough confidence in your rallying abilities that I realize Celestian may not stand a chance, but I must vote with my heart.

    Heironeous vs. Erythnul: Heironeous. His followers can get a bit smite-happy at times, but a true embodiment of justice has to trump mindless carnage.

    Fharlanghn vs. Delleb: They are both so awesome I seriously don't know which one to choose. I'll abstain for the time being.

    Iuz vs. Mayaheine: Mayaheine. Cute ascended hero-goddess FTW. Iuz gets tricked and trapped so often that he'd be the Distressed Damsel of the gods, if anyone liked him enough to rescue him, that is. ;)

    Obad-Hai vs. Beory: Wha? No Ehlonna? Blasphemy. Anyway, I'll vote Beory, since she seems like slightly less of an uncaring d-bag than Obad-hai.

    Nerull vs. Pelor: Pelor. Pelor brings light, hope, and the possibility of redemption. Nerull may win out in the end, but Pelor shows us that life can at least temporarily triumph over death.

    Vecna vs. Rao: I want to vote Rao because of what he represents, but Vecna just brings so many interesting aspects to the world. Vecna then. Subtle corruption based on finding the "seed of evil" in all beings is creepy and cool. He serves as a reminder of the truly destructive power of lies and secrets.

    Phew! That was a heckuva lot of gods!
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    Well played Talin. I will only comment that Ehlonna wasn't added because she is comsidered a 'common' deity on the lists not Flan. I could've had her go up against Wastri sure, demihuman vs amphibian-man, but in the end I couldn't resist using Raxivort either. Tough choices for 32. Imagine Theocrat's ire if Pholtus had been omitted!
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    You need to get a link to this thread on the CF front page somewhere so more folks will participate. Have you had many people email you with responses yet?
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    Bralm over Wee Jas - Just because "Wee Jas" is such a baaaaad name.
    Vatun over Kord - 'Cuz I've never really liked jocks.
    Norebo over Syrul - Because 'Syrul' always makes me think of the FR for some weird reason.
    Lendor over Pyremius - Because I never get tired of those old Lendore Isles mods.
    Zilchus over Hextor - Because I'm soooo tired of hearing about Hextor. He sucks.
    Pholtus over Celestian - Because Pholtus gets a bad rap due to the heretics in the Pale. He's actually a great guy.
    Hieroneous over Erythnul - Because he deserves to win. SOMEBODY needs to stand up for what's right and good on Oerth.
    Fharlanghn over Delleb - In spite of the fact that LG overused him.
    Tharizdun over Olidammara - Because I don't like drunken pretty-boys, either.
    Boccob over Incabulos - Though this one is pretty close.
    Zagyg over Cuthbert - Out of respect for Gary, and because I dig Zagyg's hat collection.
    Wastri over Raxivort - Because I'm always pulling for the short fat guy.
    Iuz over Mayaheine - Because I hope to kill him myself someday.
    Obad-Hai over Beory - Because I'm always pulling for the henpecked, underappreciated outdoorsy type, too.
    Pelor over Nerull - (see Hieroneous above)
    Rao over Vecna - Because he's the closest analog to my own deity (and see Hieroneous above)
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    Talin wrote:
    You need to get a link to this thread on the CF front page somewhere so more folks will participate. Have you had many people email you with responses yet?

    It's been a slow but decent enough turnout to work with. I am looking into a new method of voting for round 2 where the stakes are greater.

    Thanks for the entry bubba. Any more takers? Keep em coming.
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    Pholtus has a Movie Career

    Hi all -
    OK, since I can't just vote Pholtus on all boards...although it is by a wide margin a no contest, I'll add a bit more.

    Bralm over Wee Jas - hot tartness with firey red hair with massive attitude or Bralm 2.0 called Calistra in WoG 2.0 in which she is a hooker? Easy...always take the easy girls. Wee Jas would make you take her to a nice resturant, dinner and a movie and still won't put out on the drive home. If she did, though, I think she'd be hot in the back seat.

    Kord over Vatun - I like how Mort draws Kord and I repainted the WotC Aspect of Kord miniature. Plus isn't Vatun made up by Iuz anyway.

    Norebo over Syrul - I like that Norbebo hooks up with many goddess - Quantity over Quality

    Lendor over Pyremius - Lendor runs a Pathfinder game and allowed Pholtus to take over Heironeus's character Iomedae's and begin the schism and inquisition in Mendev that begins to take place. Besides, I don't see a Pyremius picture.

    Olidammara over Tharizdum - because Oly is mentioned in the D&D movie. Plus who wants a dark, creepy guy to win?

    Incabulous over Boccob - mainly because it's cooler to say Incabulous over Bobcob (which I always do), besides Boccob is likely reviewing his own March Madness chart after all the upsets this weekend to even notice that he was also in a contest.

    Zagyg over st. cuthbert - He's not even a real god, he's just some churches saint. Besides, look in the rules from 2e to 3e - he frickin' outright stole Tritheron's folder. Same with that hussie Wee Jas stealing stuff, and cuthie is supposed to be a good guy? They walk around knocking on people's heads - just minding their own business (I know your counter argument - the Pholtine's go around throwing people on the fire - yes, but they are HERETICS, convert or die). Plus who doesn't like the old crazy coot uncle that stands up at the Thanksgiving Dinner and says "I gotta pee" and he attempts to climb on the table?

    Raxivort over Wastri - A human that thinks he's a toad? Come on, Man! Plus Raxi is cool, a little blue rodent looking thing. Besides, it looks like Wastri is mostly naked and only wears pants because Wee Jas threatened him with John Wayne Bobett syndrome.

    Zilchus over Hextor - Zilly would just say something like "By rule number 16, subsection A13, testament 4a you must give me a head start on initiative by three times the number of fingers on your left arms and four times the number of fingers on your right arms divided by the total number of arms you have on both sides plus the number of toes that are on your right foot multiplied by the number of toes on your left foot - and you must also include any and all Aspects that also have your powers. While I realize that this may take some time, I will permit you to take all the time you need to figure this out. Plus don't forget to roll your d20 and subtract your weapon speed on each weapon." [Zilchus would most likely mix 1st and 3rd edition rules on initiative, himself rolling a d10 and going for the lower number]

    Pholtus for the WIN. Plus remember that choose your own adventure DVD movie? It has a priest of Pholtus. What's Celestian got? Besides, a whole nation of 'heretics' really isn't hereitical anymore when there are more LN followers than there are of the other churches. Besides, only Pholtus allows clerics of LG, LN and LE to get spells - not even the "greater gods" can match that. So Suck It.

    Erythnul over Heironeous - I always spell Heronenous wrong. Plus Erythunul's WoG saying is Covet Thy Neighbor...which if he has a hawt wife/girlfriend/dog/short sword/whatever I say go for it.

    Delleb over Fharlanghn - Dellb should have gone against Boccob as both are book lovers. Although, I should say that Delleb would most likely also be checking his references to see if UNI would really beat Kansas in a statistical battle and would likely not even notice that he'd gone on to the next level. However, Fharly would likely have walked away from the court after Delleb started with "By Rule number 16, subsection A13......."

    Mayaheine over Iuz - remember when CanonFire didn't exist and we all used GreyTALK e-mail? Well back in the mid-90's we all called her Myhinnie because she was cute. Sure she's only cute on Rao, but she's still a looker. Downside is that in the WoG comic she looks like Joan of Arc. But then that movie was OK and she was hawt.

    Obad-hai over Beory - Beory is in the kitchen makin' me some Pie. Obad-Hai was elevated to Greater God of all Nations in Dungeons and Dragons the movie and Dungeons & Dragons Wrath of the Dragon King. Him and Jublilex were mentioned like every other word. You even had to burn the Obad-Hai journal/bible/Mage's book. I mean Mage's were worshiping this dude. Must be the tree's - because there were a lot of tree's back in the day, unlike now.

    Nerull over Pelor - Well like in Legend of the Seeker, the Keeper gets everybody in the end...which really makes no sense. You worship and work towards a goal of the Maker, but the only way to really support the Maker is to have babies, which will end up dying thus giving the Keeper more people. Plus you keep killing people, which seems counter to the overall goal of the Maker and only furthers the Keeper's powers. Pelor can shine his light right on down to the Keeper's cottage.

    Vecna over Rao - Vecna For the Win, Hands Down! Pun! Remember the Graphic Novel about Pholtus and Vecna? I only remember bits of it and I'm not going to go out and dig it out. But who else has hand their own graphic novel published by some foreign company?

    Be Well. Be Well Bracketed.
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    Re: Pholtus has a Movie Career

    TheocratIssak wrote:
    Oly is mentioned in the D&D movie . . . Pholtus for the WIN. Plus remember that choose your own adventure DVD movie? It has a priest of Pholtus . . . Obad-Hai was elevated to Greater God of all Nations in Dungeons and Dragons the movie and Dungeons & Dragons Wrath of the Dragon King. Him and Jublilex were mentioned like every other word. You even had to burn the Obad-Hai journal/bible/Mage's book. I mean Mage's were worshiping this dude.


    "Scourge of Worlds," "Dungeons and Dragons" and "Dungeons and Dragons: Wrath of the Dragon God" -- good stuff! Evil Grin

    I really liked the interactive "Scourge of Worlds," only one path led to a winning scenario. And the fighter/warrior Regdar -- from the T.H. Lain novels Embarassed -- was trained by the Pholtan warrior cleric. Wink

    And I can attest that Bubbagump really does get along well with short fat people! Evil Grin Laughing Laughing Laughing
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    http://www.greyhawkonline.com/wogcomic/title/wogstrip268a.htm

    Plenty of reading ahead, plus round two of the Tournament of GH Deities!
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    Pholtus Is a Movie Star...helps his Theocrat

    Hi all -
    As Pholtus is a Movie Star, he hooked me up with the movie quotes.

    'you're going to need a bigger gun' - is a spoof of the line ''you're going to need a bigger boat'. Bigger Gun is used by Roy in the movie Jaws.

    'I'm terrified beyond the capacity for rational thought' - Dr. Egon says this to Peter Venkman in Ghostbusters.

    Because of this, Pholtus gets 2 extra votes for him. But he should be able to earn some extra votes for next week's battle - one of the twins will be on the chopping block next.

    As The Greyspace Sphere is 16 Billion miles across - with Oerth squarely in the middle, it's a quesstimate that Ginsel is the planet that is about 3 Billion miles away. Besides, it has a giant hamster sized bite taken out of it.

    Be Well. Be Well Quoted.
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    Holy Pelor fell to Nerull!? Shocked

    There is no hope left for the world! Evil Grin

    *You beat me to the punch, Theocrat. Wink *
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    Theocrat: Your connections with Pholtus never cease to amaze me. ;)

    Mystic: It was a hard first round matchup sorry to say. Good is not ascendant in Greyhawk evidently, St. Cuthbert lost as well.
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    Yeah, saw the St. Cuthbert loss, but I favored Zygyg for the obvious reasons. Wink

    But I believe that good will still prevail . . . if the Holy Theocrat has his way, that is. Wink Laughing Laughing Laughing
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    Regarding the God-Off....
    Wow!! I think I missed only ONE in that last competition! Since I'm feeling so prescient (comes with the territory, ya know, I mean with me having the Codex and all), let me make some predictions about the next competition that show a spooky pattern. Its gonna be...
    The Tart vs. the Father Figure
    Brother vs. Brother
    The Master vs. the Student
    The New Evil vs. the New Good (as far as the ages of the gods go)

    Cool.

    But what's SUPER-cool, is that mort finally pulled off my suggestion months ago for the cultists/Gods-in-Space crossover! As I pitched it to him last year... what could ever be cooler than Tharizdun, the Codex, and Spelljammer all in the same comic. A Perfect Storm!!!! Bwaahahahahaa!!!!

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    Maldin: I'm glad I could pull off that improable crossover. It only gets stranger next episode.

    As for your predictions, Maldin, well you may be onto something there...but as of this posting it is Wednesday morning and a few of the matches are still knotted up-close. Anyone who hasn't voted go to the last comic and check it out. The gods of GH need you!
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    http://www.greyhawkonline.com/wogcomic/title/wogstrip269a.htm

    Enjoy!
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    Nice, Mort. Really nice. Cool

    I see that the Holy Father -- err, I mean the Holy "Theocrat" -- is trying to upset the process . . . again! Reminds me of the Spanish Inquisition's Tomás de Torquemada. Razz Evil Grin

    I bookmarked the Ull page you provided, I'll return to it often. Thanks! Cool Happy
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    Excellent Mort! You had me there for a second, and more than made up for it. Cant wait to read the pdf.
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    mort... 3 out of 4??!!! Wait a minute! I correctly predicted 7 out of 8 match-ups. That's DAMN good! ;)

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    Maldin wrote:
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    Shades of Pawksatawny Phil! Shocked

    All hail Maldin, the new "Prognosticator of Prognosticators!" Laughing
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    Oh well yeah I guess you did. Somehow I got latched on the predicted third round matchup titles not individual results. Be ready for some more bold predictions then.
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    http://www.greyhawkonline.com/wogcomic/title/wogstrip270a.htm

    3rd round is over, on to the final four!
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    Zagyg!? Shocked

    Over Boccob!? Shocked

    Really? Question

    Hextor over Heironeous!? Exclamation Question Shocked Maddness! Evil Grin

    Love the comics Mort. Your just too much my friend. I think all the "love" is going to carry Zagyg to the top.

    But that's just me. Wink
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    Can Vote Multiple Times

    Hi all -
    I totally didn't realize that with Mort's new voting scheme that you could vote multiple times. As such, Pholtus should be back, because I woulda voted like a BAZILLION times.
    So, again, this is all a sham. PHOLTUS WINS.

    Damn, that little tart bytch is still alive in the tournament.

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    I totally didn't realize that with Mort's new voting scheme that you could vote multiple times. As such . . . I woulda voted like a BAZILLION times.


    Damn! That didn't occur to me! Evil

    Boccob would still be in the running too! Evil Grin

    Theocrat, we'll get him next time he tries this! Wink
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    It didn't even occur to me to vote multiple times. Cuz that would be dishonest, right? (maybe Good is a little dumb, at that, she suggests self-deprecatingly.) And a victory by cheating would be a hollow victory indeed...unless the god is evil, I guess. Then they might like a victory by cheating even better...

    This has been a fun event, Mort! Thanks for hosting it. I think it would be cool if we continued to have the occasional event 'round these parts, to drum up a little excitement every now and then.
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    Hi all -
    Voting multiple times equates to evil? No way, sister...we're in a contest for the GREATEST GOD OF GREYHAWK....it's either vote your way out of a paper bag or get the car door slammed against your head multiple times.

    Had I noted the multiple votes earlier, I would have voted a bazillion times for Pholtus and Vecna, and not told anybody so that then Pholtus could beat Vecna out in the end. Thus the rest of this contest is a sham. Although, I do hope Mr. Xagyg wins, after all, his patron did vote for him, and well he was Governor of Greyhawk City and imprisoned nine gods (but not Pholtus). Xagyg vs Nerull is how I have the final count coming down.

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    Ah Theocrat, you wiley character you. The fact is I had to sign up for a new (free) account to handle the entry load for the next two rounds of the tourney. When I did I forgot to set the form to one vote per IP number. As such tonight I had to sign up for -another- free account to get us through this round and we'll see about the last. I'd be fine with open voting but the site only allows me so many entries per account per month. Not enough for one week contests if you ask me.
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    Life is often unfair Mort, I feel your pain! Evil Grin

    I'm riding with the Theocrat on this one!

    Long live Zagyg! Down with Nerull! Evil Grin Laughing
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    Mystic-Scholar wrote:
    Life is often unfair Mort, I feel your pain! Evil Grin

    I'm riding with the Theocrat on this one!

    Long live Zagyg! Down with Nerull! Evil Grin Laughing


    I honestly don't care that much who wins at this point, all my favorites have already been voted off the island. I voted for Wee Jas because she showed some skin. ;)

    And I feel like "riding with the Theocrat" should be a euphemism for something, but I haven't figured out what that something is yet.
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    Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:53 am  

    If you noticed my "signature," you'll know that my favorite has been voted off too.

    And its a western euphemism Talin. It refers to being on horseback and riding the range together as friends, through thick and thin. Jesse James and Cole Younger "rode together."

    And I believe that you were dishonest and are well aware of your Brokeback Mountain analogy. That was both ugly and completely uncalled for. And has no place on CF.

    I give everyone the benefit of the doubt, but you've certainly gone down a couple of notches in my esteem with your -- as I perceive it -- unprovoked verbal attack.
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    Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:29 am  

    Shocked

    Confused

    ...

    ...um, what? I was making a light-hearted comment of a very general nature (still haven't even seen Brokeback Mountain, btw); what you read into it is your deal, not mine. Not really feeling as though I'm benefiting from your doubt over here.

    For the record, I was thinking "riding with the Theocrat" might make the most sense in a phrase like, "Weep not for him, Martha; he rides with the Theocrat now," or something in that vein. (Not like I think Theocrat = Death either, I just thought it sounded funny.) It is always of course my great hope that someone else will find an amusing innuendo to read into something, which I freely admit. Smile No attack on ANYONE, though. I will attack to defend myself, if necessary, but (forum?)wars of aggression aren't really my scene.
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    Thank you Talin. I freely and sincerely offer my apologies for my misunderstanding. Embarassed

    My euphemism steams from Saturday morning westerns. And I haven't seen -- and don't intend to see -- Brokeback Mountain either. Wink

    Again, I thank you for your clarification and apologize for any affront I may have given. Embarassed

    Nice analogy by the way. Cool
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    Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:03 pm  

    *Reads the exchange*

    *Scratches head and sees it worked itself out*

    *Goes back to counting votes*
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    Mon Apr 12, 2010 5:48 pm  

    *Mystic-Scholar ask Boccob to give Mortellan more faith*

    Even though Mort booted Boccob from the contest! Evil Grin
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    Aw, man!

    I wish I'd been back to W.O.G. to see this contest going on sooner! Well, congrats, Mort, you made something interesting enough happen to get me to come back and post on Canonfire again!

    This got me to thinking about which is my favorite Greyhawk god and I was surprised to find I not only can't choose one -- I can't narrow my list below 15!

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    Scottenkainen (and others), which gods are your favorites? 15 seems like a pretty long list, but to each his own, I s'pose. If this would be considered thread derailment, I can start one up elsewhere, but, you know, since we're all here and thinking about GH gods, it seems as good a place as any.

    Mine are, in no particular order: Olidammara, Rudd, Lirr, Lydia, Fharlanghn, Mhyriss, Zodal. These are the deities I would worship, were I native/transported to Oerth. I also like Hextor and Heironeous (and I totally dig the heretical sect that worships them both), and have recently become a bit of a fan of Vecna. Hextor and Heironeous are fun because under certain circumstances, one could count a Hextor-worshipper as an ally; under others, a Heironean could be a terrifying foe. I've never been in a game which featured Pholtus, but I'm sure he and his clergy could also fill an interesting ally/antagonist role. I never gave much heed to Vecna before, but after my experiences in the Age of Worms campaign, I have come to understand the destructive power of secrets. Thanks, Darl Quethos, you Magnificent Bastard you.
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    Hey Scott! Glad to see I have sparked your Greyhawk thinking muscles. 15 eh? Yeah I think I'd have a hard time choosing a definitive favorite too. My choices as it is are divided between comic appeal and game appeal. Thinking back, I have a bias for certain gods in the comic for various reasons(like they are easy to draw or make fun of) but there are many that I've never used or maybe just once. And half of those I'm sure I've never even touched in a game situation! Sometimes I get tired of certain deities in comic and game. I used to do alot of comic with Vecna and before that he was also in my games alot in 2e, now I hardly use him in either. Then there is Iuz, who I do like, but I overused him so much in my campaigns that it led to his general exlusion in the comic from the very start.
    I think overall I like the neutral deities more than evil or good, and possibly good the least. And further muddling the choices If I were like Talin and had to actually worship one, I'd love to revere one of the quasi-deities before most full gods. Who wouldn't want to be a swordsman of Kelanen or a gun toting paladin of Murlynd?
    Now if I could BE a greyhawk deity that's easy. I'd be Norebo. ;)
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    mortellan wrote:
    ,,,I'd be Norebo. ;)


    I guess that might mean we'll get an amimated gif of Wee Jas Poll dancing when she wins. Razz

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    My list

    Beory, Pelor, Rao, Zilchus, Cyndor, Wee Jas, Celestian, Delleb, Ehlonna, Fharlaghn, Gesthai, Heironeous, Hextor, Pholtus, and Zagyg -- and I didn't even think about quasi-deities! As for why those, I'm saving that for a blog entry.

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    Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:48 pm  

    It should be pointed out that Lendor was showing more skin than Wee Jas, but in the end that was not enough.

    What GH diety would I actually worship? Hmm...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Mp7Ikko8SI at 6:05...
    "Ogrčmoch, scriber of the divine earth circle..."

    I have also always been kind of partial to Wee Jas' lesser-known brother,
    Hugh Jas.
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    Scott: Cyndor, that's a rare choice. Why him if I may ask?

    Kirt: Hah! Yes indeed Lendor does show more skin. Hm, I wonder if his hair was always white?

    Hugh Jas? She does not speak of him, he is a stain on her reputation.
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    Hugh Jas

    Suel Lesser Deity of unwanted relatives, uninvited guests, social faux pas, and dubious leftovers

    Motto: More kin than kind
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    http://www.greyhawkonline.com/wogcomic/title/wogstrip271a.htm

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