Canonfire! Forums-viewtopic-The "official" 2010 Greyhawk Webcomic thread!

Fri Apr 02, 2010 2:53 pm

Oh well yeah I guess you did. Somehow I got latched on the predicted third round matchup titles not individual results. Be ready for some more bold predictions then.

Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:03 am

http://www.greyhawkonline.com/wogcomic/title/wogstrip270a.htm

3rd round is over, on to the final four!

Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:22 am

Zagyg!?

Over Boccob!? Shocked

Really?

Hextor over Heironeous!? Exclamation

Maddness!

Love the comics Mort. Your just too much my friend. I think all the "love" is going to carry Zagyg to the top.

But that's just me. Wink

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Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:23 pm Can Vote Multiple Times

Hi all -
I totally didn't realize that with Mort's new voting scheme that you could vote multiple times. As such, Pholtus should be back, because I woulda voted like a BAZILLION times.
So, again, this is all a sham. PHOLTUS WINS.

Damn, that little tart bytch is still alive in the tournament.

Theocrat Issak of the MIGHTY PHOLTUS
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Fri Apr 09, 2010 2:12 pm Re: Can Vote Multiple Times

Fri Apr 09, 2010 3:43 pm

It didn't even occur to me to vote multiple times. Cuz that would be dishonest, right? (maybe Good is a little dumb, at that, she suggests self-deprecatingly.) And a victory by cheating would be a hollow victory indeed...unless the god is evil, I guess. Then they might like a victory by cheating even better...

This has been a fun event, Mort! Thanks for hosting it. I think it would be cool if we continued to have the occasional event 'round these parts, to drum up a little excitement every now and then.

Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:45 pm Good vs. Good

Hi all -
Voting multiple times equates to evil? No way, sister...we're in a contest for the GREATEST GOD OF GREYHAWK....it's either vote your way out of a paper bag or get the car door slammed against your head multiple times.

Had I noted the multiple votes earlier, I would have voted a bazillion times for Pholtus and Vecna, and not told anybody so that then Pholtus could beat Vecna out in the end. Thus the rest of this contest is a sham. Although, I do hope Mr. Xagyg wins, after all, his patron did vote for him, and well he was Governor of Greyhawk City and imprisoned nine gods (but not Pholtus). Xagyg vs Nerull is how I have the final count coming down.

Be Well. Be Well Hard-Headed.
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Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:35 pm

Ah Theocrat, you wiley character you. The fact is I had to sign up for a new (free) account to handle the entry load for the next two rounds of the tourney. When I did I forgot to set the form to one vote per IP number. As such tonight I had to sign up for -another- free account to get us through this round and we'll see about the last. I'd be fine with open voting but the site only allows me so many entries per account per month. Not enough for one week contests if you ask me.

Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:49 am

Life is often unfair Mort, I feel your pain! Evil Grin

I'm riding with the Theocrat on this one!

Long live Zagyg! Down with Nerull! Evil Grin

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Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:25 pm

Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:53 am

If you noticed my "signature," you'll know that my favorite has been voted off too.

And its a western euphemism Talin. It refers to being on horseback and riding the range together as friends, through thick and thin. Jesse James and Cole Younger "rode together."

And I believe that you were dishonest and are well aware of your Brokeback Mountain analogy. That was both ugly and completely uncalled for. And has no place on CF.

I give everyone the benefit of the doubt, but you've certainly gone down a couple of notches in my esteem with your -- as I perceive it -- unprovoked verbal attack.
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Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:29 am

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...um, what? I was making a light-hearted comment of a very general nature (still haven't even seen Brokeback Mountain, btw); what you read into it is your deal, not mine. Not really feeling as though I'm benefiting from your doubt over here.

For the record, I was thinking "riding with the Theocrat" might make the most sense in a phrase like, "Weep not for him, Martha; he rides with the Theocrat now," or something in that vein. (Not like I think Theocrat = Death either, I just thought it sounded funny.) It is always of course my great hope that someone else will find an amusing innuendo to read into something, which I freely admit. Smile

No attack on ANYONE, though. I will attack to defend myself, if necessary, but (forum?)wars of aggression aren't really my scene.

Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:45 am

Thank you Talin. I freely and sincerely offer my apologies for my misunderstanding. Embarassed

My euphemism steams from Saturday morning westerns. And I haven't seen -- and don't intend to see -- Brokeback Mountain either. Wink

Again, I thank you for your clarification and apologize for any affront I may have given. Embarassed

Nice analogy by the way. Cool

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Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:03 pm

*Reads the exchange*

*Scratches head and sees it worked itself out*

*Goes back to counting votes*

Mon Apr 12, 2010 5:48 pm

*Mystic-Scholar ask Boccob to give Mortellan more faith*

Even though Mort booted Boccob from the contest! Evil Grin

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Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:31 am Aw, man!

I wish I'd been back to W.O.G. to see this contest going on sooner! Well, congrats, Mort, you made something interesting enough happen to get me to come back and post on Canonfire again!

This got me to thinking about which is my favorite Greyhawk god and I was surprised to find I not only can't choose one -- I can't narrow my list below 15!

~Scott "-enkainen" Casper

All of Greyhawk worship the gods. The gods worship the Yak-Men...

Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:46 pm

Scottenkainen (and others), which gods are your favorites? 15 seems like a pretty long list, but to each his own, I s'pose. If this would be considered thread derailment, I can start one up elsewhere, but, you know, since we're all here and thinking about GH gods, it seems as good a place as any.

Mine are, in no particular order: Olidammara, Rudd, Lirr, Lydia, Fharlanghn, Mhyriss, Zodal. These are the deities I would worship, were I native/transported to Oerth. I also like Hextor and Heironeous (and I totally dig the heretical sect that worships them both), and have recently become a bit of a fan of Vecna. Hextor and Heironeous are fun because under certain circumstances, one could count a Hextor-worshipper as an ally; under others, a Heironean could be a terrifying foe. I've never been in a game which featured Pholtus, but I'm sure he and his clergy could also fill an interesting ally/antagonist role. I never gave much heed to Vecna before, but after my experiences in the Age of Worms campaign, I have come to understand the destructive power of secrets. Thanks, Darl Quethos, you Magnificent Bastard you.

Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:18 pm

Hey Scott! Glad to see I have sparked your Greyhawk thinking muscles. 15 eh? Yeah I think I'd have a hard time choosing a definitive favorite too. My choices as it is are divided between comic appeal and game appeal. Thinking back, I have a bias for certain gods in the comic for various reasons(like they are easy to draw or make fun of) but there are many that I've never used or maybe just once. And half of those I'm sure I've never even touched in a game situation! Sometimes I get tired of certain deities in comic and game. I used to do alot of comic with Vecna and before that he was also in my games alot in 2e, now I hardly use him in either. Then there is Iuz, who I do like, but I overused him so much in my campaigns that it led to his general exlusion in the comic from the very start.
I think overall I like the neutral deities more than evil or good, and possibly good the least. And further muddling the choices If I were like Talin and had to actually worship one, I'd love to revere one of the quasi-deities before most full gods. Who wouldn't want to be a swordsman of Kelanen or a gun toting paladin of Murlynd?
Now if I could BE a greyhawk deity that's easy. I'd be Norebo. ;)

Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:19 pm

Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:25 am My list

Beory, Pelor, Rao, Zilchus, Cyndor, Wee Jas, Celestian, Delleb, Ehlonna, Fharlaghn, Gesthai, Heironeous, Hextor, Pholtus, and Zagyg -- and I didn't even think about quasi-deities! As for why those, I'm saving that for a blog entry.

~Scott "-enkainen" Casper

Yak-Men see the above as a list of servants...

Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:48 pm

It should be pointed out that Lendor was showing more skin than Wee Jas, but in the end that was not enough.

What GH diety would I actually worship? Hmm...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Mp7Ikko8SI at 6:05...
"Ogrèmoch, scriber of the divine earth circle..."

I have also always been kind of partial to Wee Jas' lesser-known brother,
Hugh Jas.
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Wed Apr 14, 2010 9:25 pm

Scott: Cyndor, that's a rare choice. Why him if I may ask?

Kirt: Hah! Yes indeed Lendor does show more skin. Hm, I wonder if his hair was always white?

Hugh Jas? She does not speak of him, he is a stain on her reputation.

Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:02 pm

Hugh Jas

Suel Lesser Deity of unwanted relatives, uninvited guests, social faux pas, and dubious leftovers

Motto: More kin than kind
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Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:59 pm

http://www.greyhawkonline.com/wogcomic/title/wogstrip271a.htm

Blast off for more Greyhawk action!

Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:06 pm

Holy Pelor! Shocked

They landed ON Wooly Rupert! Evil Grin

Hehehehehehe! Laughing

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Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:57 am Cyndor, that's a rare choice. Why him if I may ask?

Because Cyndor was the intermediate deity before there was an intermediate deity category. Because he's an enigma that doesn't fit in with any pantheon. He's the outsider with all the answers that only time can reveal. If the Crisis of Infinite Earths ever came to Greyhawk, Cyndor would be Monitor.

~Scott "-enkainen" Casper

Would all the shadows then look like Yak-Men...?

Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:06 am

The Monitor, intriguing correlation. And by that line of reasoning if he were in Marvel, I'd say Cyndor is Uatu the Watcher.

Then again I like to use him as Mr. Peabody.

Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:52 am Cyndor as Mr. Peabody?

Then who is Sherman?

~Scott "-enkainen" Casper

Bullwinkle is 2nd cousin to a Yak-Man...

Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:58 am Re: Cyndor as Mr. Peabody?

Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:08 pm

Got to love those Feghoots, Mort. Incidentally, I grew up on the originals, but you've got to love those re-runs too! Evil Grin

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Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:32 pm

http://www.greyhawkonline.com/wogcomic/title/wogstrip272a.htm

Gasp! It's finally finished!

Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:08 pm

Very nice Mort. Happy

I like the inclusion of the FR stuff. I think a Goddess of Dreams will need to be found among the Elven Pantheon. But that's just my opinion. Cool

And Tharizdun definitely dreamed Ravenloft. Only he could. Evil Grin

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Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:51 pm

No surprise on the winner. "Alas, poor Wee Jas! I knew her well..." Laughing

The new comic is awesome too. A Phanaton. A Doom Lord. Rocky the Flying Squirrel. What's not to love? Happy

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Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:58 am

As a Catholic, I boycotted once St. Cuthbert was eliminated Razz

... Next year in Lindesfarne! Laughing

Seriously, though, I can see Wee Jas as the winner.

I dunno about Ravenloft, though... given that it seems that Ravenloft is more-or-less a realm that's like "The Village" from the old "Prisoner" TV series, but for the baddest of the bad (Strahd, Lord Soth [expecting flak for mentioning...], etc. ...) and there seems tro be a structured reason for its existence, I don't see a totally random and chaotic god like Tharizdun creating that.

Fri Apr 23, 2010 5:51 pm

Tharizdun isn't totally random and chaotic. He's neutral evil. The idea that his dreams might subconsciously pull other evil beings toward him and torment good ones doesn't sound too far off.

As for the good goddess of dreams, I've mentioned it before in chat (though I think Mystic was the only one awake). I direct you to Sehanine Moonbow. Humans could worship her under the name Celene, personifying the aquamarine moon. Ehlonna, of course, takes care of Luna in her Artemis-like aspect, with her unicorn horn and bow representing a silver lunar crescent.

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Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:15 am

http://www.greyhawkonline.com/wogcomic/title/wogstrip273a.htm
This one was a long time coming... Razz

Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:57 am

Excellent Mort. Loved it! Happy

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Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:47 am

From WoG273b, referring to the runes on the Bronze Doors in the Temple of Elemental Evil -

"6. I haven't taken the time to translate the runes on the Bronze Doors, but I'd be keen to hear from anyone who has done so."

Here's what I worked out. Some runes appear different in different sources and I've noted these.

Line 1 - Regeneration / Holy (’80 WoG Gazetteer) / Warning
Line 2 - Good (’80 WoG Gazetteer) or Demoniac (’83 WoG Guide) This rune is most likely Good rather than Demoniac, since the others conform to the runes given in the '80 WoG Gazetteer.
Line 3 - Private / Thrall, Prisoner / Fire? (’80 WoG Gazetteer) / Sulfur, Infernal / Key
Line 4 - Death
Line 5 - Opposition, Opposed / Demoniac (’80 WoG Gazetteer) / Evil / Evil
Line 6 - Possession
Line 7 - Danger, Deadly / Darkness / Insanity / Insanity / Insanity (’80 WoG Gazetteer) / Earth (’80 WoG Gazetteer)
Line 8 - Unknown (appears as an ankh) / Warning / Holy (’80 WoG Gazetteer)

Thu May 06, 2010 9:12 am

Well done Smillan!

Here is some new stuff for you to ponder...

http://www.greyhawkonline.com/wogcomic/title/wogstrip274a.htm

Thu May 06, 2010 10:07 am

First, I never knew that Boccob was bald! Shocked

Second, I guess I'll have to check out Ghost Tower, since I never actually got to play it. Wink

Another excellent job, Mort! I just love your work and appreciate your wonderful efforts on behalf of us all, but especially on behalf of the continued life of Greyhawk. Cool

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Thu May 13, 2010 3:12 pm

http://www.greyhawkonline.com/wogcomic/title/wogstrip275a.htm

R.I.P. Frank Frazetta

Thu May 13, 2010 7:43 pm

Nice, Mort. Mr. Frazetta shall be missed. I remember those Conan's and Tarzan's. He'll be hard to replace. Sad

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Fri May 14, 2010 11:52 am

Thanks for the tribute. I had not heard. I appreciate the links too. I have seen much of his work, but not all. I'll take the time to enjoy looking at them.
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Fri May 21, 2010 3:43 pm

http://www.greyhawkonline.com/wogcomic/title/wogstrip276a.htm

get better Mort.
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Sat May 22, 2010 11:11 pm

"So the poison is working...."

(*bubbagump rubs his hands in satisfaction, smiling at another job well done and muttering praises to the Dark One.*)

Sun May 23, 2010 1:43 am

Thanks Wolfsire, I'm back on my feet.

BG: Urgh, was this plot for your regular Dark One or are you moonlighting for Incabulos now? Razz

Sun May 23, 2010 10:43 am

Does it matter? Dark is dark!

Sun May 23, 2010 3:49 pm

. . . but Tharizdun is Tharizdun! Wink

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Mon May 24, 2010 5:28 pm

And don't you forget it!

Thu May 27, 2010 2:39 pm

http://www.greyhawkonline.com/wogcomic/title/wogstrip276a.htm

A week overdue, but well worth it! Wink

Thu May 27, 2010 10:14 pm

Hilarious! And I thought I was the only person in the world who remembered the quazar dragon.

(Incidentally, I have actually used the quazar dragon in my game, as a means of getting rid of a certain annoying rules lawyer. And I ran the accompanying "Nogard" adventure for him once, too, since it didn't work!)

Mon May 31, 2010 8:28 pm

Another excellent job, Mort. Happy

Loved the link to Thor #380, never saw that one. Or the Reynold's rant. Thanks lots! Cool

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Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:38 pm

http://www.greyhawkonline.com/wogcomic/title/wogstrip277a.htm

Werewolves and Comeliness.

Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:08 pm

I actually still use Comeliness for my PCs, though not always. I use the Perception score, too. They work pretty well in my case. Thanks for the treks into yesteryear, Mort.

Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:08 pm

http://www.greyhawkonline.com/wogcomic/title/wogstrip278a.htm

Quid Pro Quo.

Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:43 pm

I'm a Quaff Pro Kid.
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Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:05 pm

http://www.greyhawkonline.com/wogcomic/title/wogstrip279a.htm

Because you -didn't- ask for it...more sword puns!

Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:10 am

Nothing wrong with a little flametongue-in-cheek humor every now and then.
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Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:42 pm

(Also without looking it up but) I would think that detect invisible would show things that were naturally difficult to see, even if not using magic.

For example, I am currently reading return to the tomb of horrors, and it mentions that the vampires in gaseous form in the fog may be seen with a detect invisible, even though they are not actually invisible. Gaseous form is an "innate ability" and would not be detectable as magic, I suppose.
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Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:48 pm

Good point Kirt. I guess there are many creatures that have innate invisiblities. Will O Wisps? Pixies? Now what is your thoughts on Detecting Illusions?

Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:04 pm

http://www.greyhawkonline.com/wogcomic/title/wogstrip280a.htm

Stuff.

Thu Jul 08, 2010 5:24 pm

http://www.greyhawkonline.com/wogcomic/title/wogstrip281a.htm

Back to your regularly scheduled program.

Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:06 am

Excellent punch line. I enjoyed the stuff too.
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Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:36 pm

I was personally pleased with the drug ad, which I threw in at the last minute on a brainstorm. Sometimes stuff I come up with off the cuff beats out things I've written on for weeks.

Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:07 am

"A thief slinging a gem from the crypt will cause 1 damage per 10,000gp value, shattering the gem in the process. (Oh that Gygax is a sly DM)"

Too sly for my tastes in this case, which is my overall impression of both 1E and 2E Tomb of Horrors.

It is great that the gems can damage him, but how are the PC's supposed to know this? To me, it is not the mark of a "superior player" that they can use a strategy for which there is no in-game reason supplied - it just means they used out-of-game knowledge...
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Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:48 pm

http://www.greyhawkonline.com/wogcomic/title/wogstrip282a.htm

Be sure to read BOTH versions...;)

Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:35 pm

Awesome stuff Mort! As usual. Loved that last one!

I've missed your work! Always look forward to seeing more of it! Wink

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Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:38 pm

http://www.greyhawkonline.com/wogcomic/title/wogstrip283a.htm

KRAKA-BOOM!

Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:20 am

I sure hope Camazots is OK Shocked

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Sat Jul 24, 2010 1:40 pm

Look closer, Wolfsire... Wink

Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:48 pm

Gotta love it Mort! Happy

How do you find the time? I seem to be busy these days! Evil Grin

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Sat Jul 24, 2010 11:26 pm

I work midnights and have very little to do, that's how! It's amazing I don't get more done actually...

Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:35 am

Laziness!? Surprised

We should be getting more!? Shocked

Say it ain't so, Mort! Say it ain't so! Laughing

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Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:14 pm

Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:18 pm

Wow! That was a close one, Mort. I see his plan is to sneek out in the dimunitive Ii-nedraw. Handy thing to keep tucked behind your ear.

Now might be a good time to bring out this old jingle:

http://www.canonfire.com/cf/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=2188&highlight=iinedraw&sid=a097d61227fd98a4d8d84f96955bc2e1
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Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:08 pm

Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:39 am Speculation on the identity of the two cultists

So, mort, do we have enough clues now to figure out who the cultists of Tharizdun are, or should we wait for more comics to come out? :-)

Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:47 am

Aren't they just human cultists in ceremonial robes? If they turned out to be Erythnul and Incabulos in disguises, it would be very weird.

Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:53 am

Last night in the chat, mort hinted at a puzzle regarding their identities. I think they're established NPCs or even deities, and he says he's left clues in the comics about who they are.

Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:03 pm

Correct Celeste. Through careful re-reading of the comic and location of various visual and textual clues which I will later leak, you can deduce the answer. Also, you can eliminate certain characters based on them appearing with the cultists, such as Erythnul who was with other evil gods trying to kill the cultists a couple episodes ago.

Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:48 am

So, are we getting a new comic this week or did I just miss an announcement of some sort?...I need my fix, man! Wink

...
Kwint

Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:57 am

Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:57 am

Sorry to interrupt, but it's time for my Gencon Special!!!!!

Be sure to download my first parody module: the Room of Horrors! Evil

Sat Aug 07, 2010 10:45 am

The Room of Horrors is a nasty little mod, Mort. Nicely done! Cool

Of course, I always knew you were a devilishly wicked man! Evil Grin

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Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:20 pm

Thanks Mystic! It still needs a bit of tweaking. My playtest was a bit wonky, but then again I ran it 1st edition and I hadn't done that system in AGES. Given time I would've liked to add pregenerated victims-er, characters and some illustrations. Eh.

Sun Aug 08, 2010 12:59 pm

1st edition works for me, that's about "where" I was playing -- "back in the day." Wink

Can't wait to see your "final" rendition and the victims, err, characters you create! Wink

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Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:12 pm

http://www.greyhawkonline.com/wogcomic/title/wogstrip285a.htm

And for the first time: Mordenkainen!

Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:42 pm

Nice work Mort! And thanks for that Gencon info! Wink

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Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:55 pm

I only wish I had been to that D&D seminar first hand! I didn't even learn about it till I read online the day after I got back!

Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:09 pm

Emporium franchise in every village and core book every year. Cry

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Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:01 am

Sadly, Mordy is nothing more than a . . . Merchant! Shocked

Thanks 4e! Mordy could never have been a financial success without you! Evil

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Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:51 pm

The RoH had me in tear several time, and I am not even fished yet. :-)
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Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:08 pm

Thanks Wolfsire! You have a favorite room yet?

Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:27 pm

So far it would be the Angry Undead, cuz for some reason, it luled me into thinking that this thing could actully be played. Laughing

Im gonna go read some more. Happy

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Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:21 pm

http://www.greyhawkonline.com/wogcomic/title/wogstrip286a.htm

The gods get a bit off track...

Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:44 am

Werewolves, Ehlonna and Obad-Hai, I know that theme. http://www.canonfire.com/cf/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=936

I am sure it is in bad taste to comare artists. Maybe it is just cuz I recently read something similar in Order of the Stick, http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0742.html (“I wouldn’t call him a dwarf, but there will definitely be some spelunking involved.”), but, I can’t help but mention that the last panel was ripe for having Ronald Regan make some double entendre salamander/fire giant joke. Amusing even if I cannot come up with the puchline.
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