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    Sat Apr 16, 2016 4:02 pm  
    Congrats on C1.

    By the way, all,

    I keep forgetting (until now) to congratulate everyone on a first chapter completed.

    Congrats!

    Thanks for all the good 'werk', KW!
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    Sat Apr 16, 2016 6:41 pm  

    And here's a mini preview of Ohrin in his non-combat attire, perhaps while working on his magic in the lab.

    https://www.heroforge.com/load_config=685939
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    Sat Apr 16, 2016 7:39 pm  
    Re: Aurdraco's Ohrin, Gameplay, and Q About Posting

    Syzygyst wrote:
    Aurdraco,

    Really nice job on the 'forged' Ohrin. Just make sure he doesn't drop that fireball on the books at his feet! And great job on the additions/rearrangement to HQ, as well. In other words: "I love what you've done with the place." Wink

    Game-Play:

    If Ohrin expresses his full idea for rearranging hq and it's allowed/possible, Njord will definitely be on board for helping make that happen. He'll also try to include Saevil and Kahss in the project.

    Q:
    Is this forum where we express non-speaking actions, such as the one above? Or, should we post it in the main thread? If so, let me know and i'll put it up there.


    Thanks!

    To simplify and move the story forward, Ohrin will just begin re-arranging the furniture if no one objects (and someone has already started helping). Please see most recent map. Hat tip to our DM for turning me on to that online mapping tool.

    This thread is for Out of Character (OOC) stuff. We, as players, discuss things in here. Anything our characters do that needs to be shown, imo, should be in the chapter threads.
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    Sun Apr 17, 2016 9:08 pm  

    Gentlemen,

    Aurdraco: Nicely done on the HeroForge creation and on your adjustments to the Headquarters. I will move forward with the rearrangement of the furniture in mind Also, no problem about the mapping tool. I like it!

    Syzygyst: Thanks for the kind words! very happy


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    Tue Apr 19, 2016 4:49 pm  
    Ohrin Forged

    Aurdraco,

    Saw that other (non-combat) Ohrin forge-form. Most cool. I'm still worried about those books with all that fire being thrown around! Wink

    It makes me want to make a Njord-form, too. I hope i get around to that.

    Onward!
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    Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:14 pm  

    Cheers to all for a chapter completed, yes! Here's to many more!
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    Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:38 pm  

    Ok. Rather than hoping i'd get around to it, i gave it a try. Here's Njord forge-form version 0.0.0.

    https://www.heroforge.com/load_config=692216

    And i put a Santa hat on him. Couldn't find any better winter-hat type of headgear.
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    Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:29 pm  

    Syzygyst wrote:
    Ok. Rather than hoping i'd get around to it, i gave it a try. Here's Njord forge-form version 0.0.0.

    https://www.heroforge.com/load_config=692216

    And i put a Santa hat on him. Couldn't find any better winter-hat type of headgear.


    Awesome!
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    Wed Apr 20, 2016 3:27 pm  

    Gentlemen,

    Two items, for your information:

    1. I have been informed by Jig that he is currently quite busy with professional and personal commitments and, therefore, will find it difficult to post with any reliable frequency for the nonce. Therefore, I will be constructing today's post in such a way that addresses his character's silence.

    2. I have not forgotten the Character Description capsules I promised you last week. I have been waiting on Jig to remit his submission, but with respect to the first item, this has not been forthcoming. Therefore, I will be posting the rest of your capsules today and tagging his on subsequently.


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    Wed Apr 20, 2016 4:48 pm  
    The Jig Is Down!

    Noooo! Our Jig is down?! Sad

    That sucks. Hope you can join back up later, Mr. Jigsawed!
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    Wed Apr 20, 2016 7:27 pm  
    Choosing Our Comrades: The List

    Hey, nice job on the NPC list, KW. Thanks.

    Ok, this may be jumping the gun, but i'm in gamin' mode, so i compiled my first Njord-thoughts-list about the candidates. This might help coordinate opinions on our prospective companions. Basically gives ranks for each individual by the following scale:

    +3: Wanted to a point of pitching a fit if not chosen
    +2: Much wants.
    +1: Would seem positive to have along
    00: (0): Neutral, doesn't have opinion either way.
    -1: Seems a negative
    -2: Definitely not wanted
    -3: Will protest vehemently, maybe drop out himself, if individual chosen.

    ? (question mark) means doesn't really have any info.
    * (asterisk) means might be notes, caveats, etc.

    Code:

    +1  Asranith Lasiniir
    +1  Lady Armiger Marissa Osson of Almor
    +1* Sir Montgomery “Monty” Persides  (but a Paladin? Yikes?!)
    +1? Soren Stormcloud
    +1? Kelvan Farstrider
    00? “Slava”
    00? Yrist Vrabenn
    00? Kharâz Stonemilker
    00? Lertan Stonemilker
    00? Minek Stonemilker
    +1? Captain Jinmiir Ristolier
    00? Idriel von Fluss-Amberhill
    00? Khândraz
    00? Ruslan Heatherplains
    00? Frantisek Mannenheim
    00? Monek Friedrich
    00? Sammi Vasternaan
    00? Karstren Esil
    +2  Lars Loja
    +1* Milleen (Might be good to have trained wolves along!)
    00? Altansarnai  (Might be good if we choose Milleen)
    +1? Hjálmar Frjálsmaður  (Just like the name)
    00? Jonáš Cerny
    00  Ballatia Wishílde
    00? Lucion Inmarial
    00? Gerrit Lashander
    00? Renada Rabbitwarren
    -2  “The Dark One”
    +1? Nevin Stoutshield  (Hey, with a name like "Stoutshield", how can ya go wrong?)
    +1  Merri Flowerfield
    00? Mirka Daňo
    00  Narend Martracin
    +2* Lukasz Ravel  (Problem, taking him away from his betrothed? Amelia)
    -2  “Crow Jane”
    +1  Asila T'shanna  (A monk might be good to have along)
    +1? Faeranna Nightsky  (Like the name)
    00? Morin Thistlefoot
    00? Markus Restantin
    +1  Johanna Swiftstoat


    Look forward to also talking (longform/role-play comm) about this.

    PS: And ok, "The Dark One" is not a must have.

    PPS: Too bad there's no table html option.
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    Wed Apr 20, 2016 7:44 pm  

    Also, nice job on the descriptions, gents. It's great to be able to "see" the characters.

    And Corus sure has a variety of NPCs: Kobolds and Kenkus and Freaks, Oh My!
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    Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:02 pm  

    Syzygyst,

    Firstly, thank you for the kind words on the list of NPCs. Please bear in mind that each Player in the game got different information regarding these characters...so, yes: Creating those lists was a great deal of work!

    Second, you have a novel approach (your table) for listing which characters Njord does and doesn't approve of. It was an unexpected approach, but I think it will prove helpful (in conjunction with the long form role-play, of course) for the group in selecting your fellowship.

    Third, yes...Corus has a very diverse population. This is what you get when you deal with a settlement primarily composed of adventurers: Much weirdness!

    Finally...I, too, enjoyed the descriptions of your individual PCs. Hopefully, you enjoyed the descriptions of the NPCs just as much!


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    Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:00 pm  

    I like Syz's voting system. I suggest that he have Njord enunciate it in character to the group.

    Thanks,

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    Wed Apr 20, 2016 11:56 pm  
    Fellowship Voting Method

    Hey Aurdraco!

    Glad u liked the idea. I actually thought of it as a way to expedite the process of selection. Sort of a way of displaying our "group-mind" in short-hand, if u will. If we were to completely play/dialogue this out, it might take weeks at our present post-rate, so this came to mind. I'm looking forward to what role-play we do have on the subject, i just think this will hasten things greatly.

    Ohrin Can Claim The Idea:
    I didn't think of this in character, and wasn't even considering it as a device that the characters would actually be using. Njord is not very cerebral. He likes hunting and tracking and the like, so i doubt he'd ever think of such a thing. Ohrin, on the other hand, might actually think of something like this. If you'd like for Ohrin to actually use this idea in the game-world, please have at it! I could see one such as he actually devising such a numerical strategy. (I'm assuming Ohrin is rather intelligent, being a mage). And actually, by your recent post, Ohrin is already at the table pouring over the list and making notes, so he's a natural for it. Njord, on the other hand, has a lovely lesbian captain to occupy his current thoughts!Smile

    So, if you want to be the one in charge of the actual (real-world) table, be my guest. You could just write it up and send it out (or to KW for dispersal) as a PDF or the like. If you'd rather i actually handle the details, let me know. i'm flexible.

    Let me/us know.

    Note that the composite score (regardless of who actually tracks this), does not have to be averaged. A simple sum will suffice, as it will still yield a bipolar (tho magnified: -9 to 0 to +9) score. It just saves a step (and is cleaner) than computing an average of our 3 'scores.' Actually, i guess it may be 4 scores if KW is going to play Kahss and give his input. Or perhaps Jig will actually find the time to participate! Fingers crossed.

    Also, i'm assuming Kraftwerk/Lamashtu will be OK with this. If not, please speak up!

    Kraftwerk:
    This is pretty cool. I've never experienced this while gaming before -- i.e. having our (main) characters select a bunch of companions. Groovy!


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    Thu Apr 21, 2016 1:17 am  

    Syzygyst & Aurdraco,

    Of course, I have no qualms with whatever methodology you should choose to select your fellowship. In the words of Aleister Crowley: "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law."

    Of course, I would be remiss in my duties as a Dungeon Master were I not to remind you that there are consequences to every one of your choices, as Players. With that in mind, you are free to choose as you will -- but you should be most careful to ensure that your methodology is sound. Failure to do so is to invite disaster.

    In closing, I'm glad that you find the game experience to be unique and rewarding, thus far. Let's hope it continues on that path!


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    Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:20 pm  
    Saevil's chuckles

    Amidst all these "fireworks," did Njord notice Saevil's reaction?
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    Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:36 pm  

    Syz,

    I would say no. He was far too locked in on the Captain to notice much else. He might not have noticed if the building was on fire! very happy


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    Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:25 am  

    Ok, I'll have Ohrin suggest the idea. I have already created a spreadsheet to track our votes and notes about each NPC.
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    Fri Apr 22, 2016 2:40 pm  

    Aurdraco,

    Awesome! Look forward to seeing it develop. And a spreadsheet is the right tool for the job.
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    Sun Apr 24, 2016 10:44 am  

    What time of day is it when Fireheart leaves HQ and Ohrin is thinking of going to gather his possessions, maps, and talking to his master?
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    Sun Apr 24, 2016 12:29 pm  

    Hey, folks!

    Need another player? - I just stumbled over the game, and I think I'd be happy to join in, or lurk. Smile
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    Sun Apr 24, 2016 3:43 pm  

    I'm +1 if Kraftwerk is feeling up to it.
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    Sun Apr 24, 2016 10:56 pm  

    Le Noir Faineant,

    PM incoming....


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    Sun Apr 24, 2016 10:57 pm  

    Syzygyst,

    Syzygyst wrote:
    What time of day is it when Fireheart leaves HQ and Ohrin is thinking of going to gather his possessions, maps, and talking to his master?


    It would be late afternoon. Consider it to be about 4:00pm.


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    Sun Apr 24, 2016 11:16 pm  

    Cool, thanks! Smile Will reply later today. Smile
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    Sun Apr 24, 2016 11:48 pm  

    Lamashtu,

    I redacted a bit of your last post. Before you return to the headquarters, you have an encounter to attend to. very happy

    Le Noir Faineant,

    I look forward to reading your reply! Happy


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    Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:21 am  

    Ok, was tired for that last post (about leaving hq and gathering gear), so hopefully it wasn't too bad.

    Basically Njord was trying to make note of anything he thought the hq/guards could use, and either picking it up on the way back or after returning with all his gear. This depends however on:

    What time-ish does he return to hq? He plans on heading to the captain's an hour after sunset, which leads to the question(s): When does the sun set, and, thus, what time of year is it (date)? I may have already asked that but i'm tired. I'll check notes later today...

    Also, he may wish to bathe if possible before heading to the captain's. He needs to clear his heads.


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    Syzygyst,

    Syzygyst wrote:
    Ok, was tired for that last post (about leaving hq and gathering gear), so hopefully it wasn't too bad.

    Basically Njord was trying to make note of anything he thought the hq/guards could use, and either picking it up on the way back or after returning with all his gear. This depends however on:

    What time-ish does he return to hq? He plans on heading to the captain's an hour after sunset, which leads to the question(s): When does the sun set, and, thus, what time of year is it (date)? I may have already asked that but i'm tired. I'll check notes later today...

    Also, he may wish to bath if possible before heading to the captain's. He needs to clear his heads.


    The post wasn't too bad. I understood what you meant, which is really all that matters. Smile

    For your further information: It is the 7th day of Readying. Tomorrow is, ironically enough, the first day of the week-long Rising Fest: A holy week, sacred to the followers of Beory. Luna will be in her full glory in four days. Sol has been setting sometime around 5:00pm, which means you have slightly less than three hours before you will appear at Captain Fireheart's office.

    Plan accordingly....


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    Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:11 pm  
    C2: HQ / Njord

    Thx, KW. More Q's:

    Oerth Year:
    What year (CY) is it? (If you already stated this, i can't find it.)

    WATER? Both on Corus and Our Journey?:
    Another big Q: WATER ECOLOGY. Are there blocks of fresh-water ice available for transfer to be melted down? Or sea-water boiling? Are there public containers with fresh/sea-water or ice? There are springs but don't know if they are potable (sulphur), etc.????

    HQ Equipment/Food/Items:
    Also, don't know how detailed you wanna get about the HQ accoutrements, but Njord is back to thinking about getting things that might be needed for the several days they will stay there. If he thinks of anything (or if the guards specified things they wanted), and he thinks there is time to get them before seeing the Captain, he'll do that. Otherwise, he will simply wait for the others to return.

    Bath:
    He was thinking of a bath, but now thinks he'll need it after seeing the Captain. He'll probably need to calm down again.
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    Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:39 pm  

    Syzygyst,

    Full of questions, eh? :)

    Well...:

    Syzygyst wrote:
    Oerth Year:
    What year (CY) is it? (If you already stated this, i can't find it.)


    The year is 600CY.

    Syzygyst wrote:
    WATER? Both on Corus and Our Journey?:
    Another big Q: WATER ECOLOGY. Are there blocks of fresh-water ice available for transfer to be melted down? Or sea-water boiling? Are there public containers with fresh/sea-water or ice? There are springs but don't know if they are potable (sulphur), etc.????


    Corus is surrounded in briny salt walter. Most of it is in a slushy state, frozen at the edges of the Brink Islands. With that said: Ohrin, I suspect, will be instrumental in your party's survival. Corus' drinking water is, likewise, provided by clerical spellcasting (which I mentioned in some Players' information packs, though not all).

    Syzygyst wrote:
    HQ Equipment/Food/Items:
    Also, don't know how detailed you wanna get about the HQ accoutrements, but Njord is back to thinking about getting things that might be needed for the several days they will stay there. If he thinks of anything (or if the guards specified things they wanted), and he thinks there is time to get them before seeing the Captain, he'll do that. Otherwise, he will simply wait for the others to return.


    Noted. I know that you mentioned your desire to do this before, but I ignored reflecting it in the story quite purposefully. It will soon become apparent why (minor spoiler: It won't prove necessary).

    Syzygyst wrote:
    Bath:
    He was thinking of a bath, but now thinks he'll need it after seeing the Captain. He'll probably need to calm down again.


    Heh. You're beginning to see how this works, I see. Laughing


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    Mon Apr 25, 2016 5:53 pm  

    Ah. I see now. Awesome! Why am I humming:

    "Oompah, Loompah, doopity-Doo..."

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    Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:05 pm  

    Sheesh Kraftwerk, WTF with the tear-jerking scenes?!

    lol Smile
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    Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:25 pm  

    Lamashtu,

    The Brink Islands are a cold, cold place, my friend. You want happiness and sunshine? Go someplace sunnier...like, say, Rauxes. Evil Grin

    Also: It's Syz' fault for comparing them to Oompa-loompas!


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    Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:23 am  

    Hey, i love Oompa-Loompas! They're awesome! Plus, i have to add levity where i can, considering that my moody and even somewhat morose character is soon going to be flayed alive by the captain, or by the demon that currently possesses her! Wink
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    Wed Apr 27, 2016 2:11 pm  

    Gentlemen,

    Huzzah! Olivia Owlbear has joined the Champions of Corus! very happy

    http://www.purplepawn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Owlbear-Plushie.jpg

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    Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:46 pm  

    Quote:
    Huzzah! Olivia Owlbear has joined the Champions of Corus! very happy

    http://www.purplepawn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Owlbear-Plushie.jpg


    But, KW, you didn't wait for my follow up after the gnome-children depart! That's when Njord was going to walk nonchalantly over to the fireplace and, with a sinister sneer and laugh, cast the silly thing into the flames! Wink


    In truth, that's simply adorable. I actually want one.

    Nice scene, KW.
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    Syz,

    Syzygyst wrote:
    But, KW, you didn't wait for my follow up after the gnome-children depart! That's when Njord was going to walk nonchalantly over to the fireplace and, with a sinister sneer and laugh, cast the silly thing into the flames! Wink


    Yeah, right. You and I both know Njord doesn't have that in him.

    Syzygyst wrote:
    In truth, that's simply adorable. I actually want one.

    Nice scene, KW.


    Some fun facts on that scene:

    - Ernie Gygax's favorite monster of all-time is the Owlbear.

    - Ernie Gygax has that very same plush owlbear in the link I sent you. That was actually the inspiration for the scene. I saw that plushie and, like you, thought it was absolutely adorable.

    - I, too, love owlbears. I have subsequently bought that doll (she's looking at me right now as I type this, from her perch on my desk) and I think it's still available. I want to say she was $25?

    - Is it just a doll? Or was it something much more...? Evil Grin

    Thanks for the kind words. Fun scene to write!


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    Wed Apr 27, 2016 5:07 pm  

    Gotta agree that was a really sweet and fun scene.

    I've seen that owlbear plushie before, considered grabbing one for my niece.
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    Wed Apr 27, 2016 5:13 pm  

    Lamashtu,

    If your niece happens to be gnomish, I would say it's as especially good idea!!! very happy

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    Wed Apr 27, 2016 10:12 pm  

    Quite the opposite, she's not yet 4 and she's already dwarfing 8 year old boys. I look forward to watching her kick **** in Krav Maga classes, and when she's a bit older, taking her to the firing range.

    Although last I checked she still adores the Cthulhu plushie I bought her when she was an infant. I was between careers and basically took care of her 5-6 days a week while her parents worked. Those were good times. *sigh*
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    Wed Apr 27, 2016 10:40 pm  

    Lamashtu,

    Very well, then. Dispense with the Owlbear and go straight to the Tarrasque!!! :o


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    Thu Apr 28, 2016 8:13 am  

    Just a small heads-up: I received your message today, K. Smile Suffice to say that when I said that I was a Greyhawk mainstay, that also involved some knowledge of the technical pitfalls the site brings. Happy

    I am still very interested to join, but I am on the road until Sunday, so I'll only be able to respond you in a proper fashion when I am back home.

    But, yeah, as far as I am concerned, I can't wait to join you all! Smile
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    Thu Apr 28, 2016 2:21 pm  

    Le Noir,

    Magnificent! I'll be waiting for your response!!! :)

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    Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:18 pm  
    C2: The Outsiders / Hq / Njord / Idle-time B4 Captain

    KW,

    Njord is pondering his options for the next, what, 1-and-a-half hours? 1/2 hour-ish for sunset then wait an hour?

    He's wondering if sewing Olivia seems like a good idea. I think you mentioned she has some stuffing showing?

    He'll be looking over the list for a few (10/15) minutes, and then try to think of something else to do. Might sharpen swords, etc.

    If you have any input, do tell.

    -- Syz

    PS: As far as the doll being something 'more,' Njord has no idea. Although he might be a little wary of it if he thinks it's a creation of the Dark One.
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    LNF, Hello

    Le Noir Faineant,

    If indeed you join us, welcome to the cold north of the Flanaess!
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    Very well, then. Dispense with the Owlbear and go straight to the Tarrasque!!! :o


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    Wait... *is* there a plush Tarrasque?!
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    Lamashtu.

    lamashtu wrote:
    Wait... *is* there a plush Tarrasque?!


    You must be joking, good sir. If there can be a plush-something, there is a plush-something!!! very happy

    http://thastygliax.deviantart.com/art/Tarrasque-202815262


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    If You Give an Owlbear a Haunch of Human Flesh....

    Syzygyst,

    Given your current interests, I thought that you might enjoy this picture:

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/btcb663a1q4dcdk/13161222_10209822068655528_1582565511_o.jpg?dl=0

    "Mother's Day". Purchased for me as a Christmas gift by my best friend, Jeremy. Subsequently painted by professional miniature artist Bryan Cp Steele.


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    lamashtu wrote:
    Kraftwerk wrote:
    Lamashtu,

    Very well, then. Dispense with the Owlbear and go straight to the Tarrasque!!! :o


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    Wait... *is* there a plush Tarrasque?!


    Shocked

    I... I see that morale has not increased during my absence. Surprised Wink
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    Owlbears

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    "Mother's Day". Purchased for me as a Christmas gift by my best friend, Jeremy. Subsequently painted by professional miniature artist Bryan Cp Steele.


    Those are awesome. I've always liked owlbears. Maybe not my favorite creature, but i do think they're cool. Probably because i like both bears and owls. Smile

    Is Jeremy the gentleman (your friend) that may also be joining us on The Black Ice?
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    Le Noir Faineant,

    Le Noir Faineant wrote:
    I... I see that morale has not increased during my absence. Surprised Wink


    This is so. However, the good news is that it hasn't diminished, either! Wink

    Have you had any luck finding a spare moment to work on your submission for the game, my friend?

    Syzygyst,

    Syzygyst wrote:
    Is Jeremy the gentleman (your friend) that may also be joining us on The Black Ice?


    Your inductive reasoning skills serve you well. But of more, I cannot speak! You will simply have to wait and see for yourself! Evil Grin


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    Kraftwerk wrote:
    Le Noir Faineant,

    Le Noir Faineant wrote:
    I... I see that morale has not increased during my absence. Surprised Wink


    This is so. However, the good news is that it hasn't diminished, either! Wink

    Have you had any luck finding a spare moment to work on your submission for the game, my friend?


    Yeah, hehehe, yesterday. I got interrupted while I was on it. So, I'll complete things tonight. Smile
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    'Twas me. K, you might want to ask Cebrion to disable guest posting on your board. Right now, the game is young, but, over time, such things can be a risk. Smile
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    As of this Thursday, I hope to speak to Elder Smedger about our little corner of Canonfire. Though I have nothing too radical in mind, you may see a few improvements shortly afterward! :)


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    Le Noir Faineant,

    I have almost completed your list of special equipment. All that remains is your character's official submission! Cool


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    Njord, Mirka Dano

    Hey KW!

    Mirka Dano:
    Wasn't sure if Njord is suppose to know something about Mirka in response to Cap'n F's statement. Don't recall anything, and can't find anything in notes. Maybe because i'm tired?

    Milleen:
    I have info that she is only 12 years old. Is that correct? Do kobolds age faster than humans? So is she equivalent to, say, 18? Might have a problem taking a 12 year old!

    Crow Jane:
    Same Q as Milleen but for Kenku instead of kobolds, as she is only 14?
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    Ages of You

    Syz,

    You haven't missed anything about Mirka. The Captain has a personal opinion of her, based on her own experience. Persue or ignore the matter as you see fit.

    With regard to Milleen and Crow Jane: You got it right in one. Kobolds and Kenku age much differently than do humans, gaining maturity far earlier. By the standards of the former, Millen is about 23; by the standards of the latter, Crow Jane is perhaps the same.


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    Quote:
    You haven't missed anything about Mirka. The Captain has a personal opinion of her, based on her own experience. Persue or ignore the matter as you see fit.


    Already pursued. Smile
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    Syz,

    I might have known! Laughing


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    Aurdraco,

    You are a bit ahead of the other Players in the game right now. If you would, please be patient while I catch them up! Smile

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    Sun May 08, 2016 7:22 pm  

    That's fine; Ohrin and I are organizing our thoughts re: the petitioners. Once the others get back, I'm hoping we can come to agreement sooner rather than letter. I expect we may have to interview several in order to make our final decisions.
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    Wed May 11, 2016 10:38 pm  
    Saevil's Bluntness

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    Sævil follows Milleen on his hands and knees. As they travel he asks, "Milleen your people look like lizards and what little I know of lizards is that they survive poorly in the cold, often even with fire. My friend Daela once told me this is because lizards only take warmth from what is around them, while elves and men and the like produce heat within themselves.


    LOL. i got a hoot at how matter of fact that was: "Milleen your people look like lizards..."

    That's hilarious.
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    That's our Sævil: The very soul of tact. Laughing


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    Thu May 12, 2016 12:51 am  

    Aurdraco,

    Welcome back to the game thread! very happy

    As you can see, you will soon be in a "joint scene" with Syz. Have fun!


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    hahaha.. she called us 'fleshlings'!
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    Captain Fireheart's Input

    Ok. I'll be sending a slightly different version of Njord's thoughts next (as per chat with Aurdraco), but i thought it would be good to have Captain Fireheart's take posted. As Njord will (or would) be offering her views during discussions, as being distinctly her own. So if it matters to anybody (or any character) to know what the Cap'n thinks, here it is: (+1 she gave definite thumbs up for. Only gave real detail about a few folks).

    Captain Fireheart's List:

    Code:

    +2  Asranith Lasiniir
    +2  Lady Armiger Marissa Osson of Almor
    00  Sir Montgomery “Monty” Persides
    +1  Soren Stormcloud
    +1  Kelvan Farstrider
    +1  “Slava”
    00  Yrist Vrabenn
    +1  Kharâz Stonemilker
    +1  Lertan Stonemilker
    +1  Minek Stonemilker
    -2  Captain Jinmiir Ristolier  (coward and a charlatan)
    +2  Idriel von Fluss-Amberhill
    00  Khândraz
    -1  Ruslan Heatherplains
    00  Frantisek Mannenheim
    -1  Monek Friedrich
    00  Sammi Vasternaan
    00  Karstren Esil
    +2  Lars Loja
    +1  Milleen
    +1  Altansarnai  (come in handy for terrain navigation)
    +1  Hjálmar Frjálsmaður
    00  Jonáš Cerny
    00  Ballatia Wishílde
    00  Lucion Inmarial
    00  Gerrit Lashander
    00  Renada Rabbitwarren
    +1  “The Dark One”  (dedicated to the isle)
    +1  Nevin Stoutshield
    00  Merri Flowerfield
    -2  Mirka Dano  (not trustworthy)
    00  Narend Martracin
    +2  Lukasz Ravel
    +1  “Crow Jane”  (dedicated to the isle)
    +1  Asila T'shanna
    +1  Faeranna Nightsky
    00  Morin Thistlefoot
    00  Markus Restantin
    00  Johanna Swiftstoat


    Njord's updated list forthcoming.
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    Njord's Updated List

    Here's Njord's new opinions list with minimal notes. Has been somewhat modified after chat with Cap'n F. I'll send more details, like class, level, etc. in a next post, which may be tonight, if i can keep my eyes open. But that detail may be minute, anyway.

    Njord's Updated List

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    +2  Asranith Lasiniir
    +2  Lady Armiger Marissa Osson of Almor
    +1  Sir Montgomery “Monty” Persides (Paladin: Hieroneous)
    +1  Soren Stormcloud
    +1  Kelvan Farstrider
    +1  “Slava”
    00  Yrist Vrabenn
    +1  Kharâz Stonemilker
    +1  Lertan Stonemilker
    +1  Minek Stonemilker
    -2  Captain Jinmiir Ristolier
    +1  Idriel von Fluss-Amberhill
    00  Khândraz
    -1  Ruslan Heatherplains
    00  Frantisek Mannenheim
    -1  Monek Friedrich
    00  Sammi Vasternaan
    00  Karstren Esil
    +2  Lars Loja
    +1  Milleen (Might be good to have trained wolves along!)
    +1  Altansarnai  (Might be good if we choose Milleen)
    +1  Hjálmar Frjálsmaður
    00  Jonáš Cerny
    00  Ballatia Wishílde
    00  Lucion Inmarial
    00  Gerrit Lashander
    00  Renada Rabbitwarren
    00  “The Dark One”
    +1  Nevin Stoutshield
    +1  Merri Flowerfield
    -1  Mirka Daňo
    00  Narend Martracin (Mysterious, may have dark side)
    +2  Lukasz Ravel  (No Prob, taking him away from Amelia)
    +1  “Crow Jane”
    +1  Asila T'shanna  (A monk might be good to have along)
    +1  Faeranna Nightsky  (Like the name, Thumbs up from Capn)
    00  Morin Thistlefoot
    00  Markus Restantin
    +1  Johanna Swiftstoat
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    Thanks, got it. I'm not incorporating her votes, just her notes. See in-character thread for update later today.
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    Discussing the Volunteers

    Aurdraco,

    Ok. Cool. Saw the Discussion post in the main thread. Nicely done. I have no problems with the current "definites" (+3+) list. Will try to get a general NPC synopsis for Njord out this eve. Will also post q's/thoughts about the gaggle of +2 nominees.


    QUESTIONS for Kraftwerk:

    Do you prefer posting general Discussion stuff in the main thread or do you want it in the OOC thread? Or maybe you don't care?

    Are we supposed to select exactly 20 NPCs? Or was that just a ballpark number? Was there any definite reasons given for that number -- ie that large of a group? I don't recall at the moment. Didn't seem to be any.
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    Answers for Syzygyst

    Syzygyst,

    Firstly, it's my strong preference that all general discussion -- that which is not conducted by your characters -- is posted in the OOC thread.

    Secondly, twenty is not a hard and fast number. The Little One put forth that number as an upper limit on a practical fellowship (considering supplies and a small enough group to elude detection by your enemies). That was simply her opinion, however. As ever, you may do as you see fit!

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    Fri May 27, 2016 6:57 pm  

    Syz, yes please post Njord's more specific thoughts as they may sway Saevil or Ohrin and change their votes! This is a very complicated process so let's get this resolved so we can move the adventure forward. Thanks!
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    Aurdraco,

    A job well done on collating and putting forth the list. I will refrain from posting immediately so as to facilitate conversation from you three Players.

    So get to conversatin'! :)


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    Njord Quick Data

    Ok. Here's some notes. There may be more to say, but this is a start for all characters for which Njord has any solid info.

    Question marks mean uncertain. City Guard / Defenders noted.

    (CFR) Means Captain Fireheart Personally recommended to Highmountain. List posted at end.


    Asranith Lasiniir: Male, High-Elf. Ranger?
    City Guard, Loner, quiet, survivor. Parolled with Njord. (CFR)

    Lady Armiger Marissa Osson of Almor: Female H(Oerid). Fighter? Very Beautiful. Defender. Skilled. Agressive. Possibly Reckless. (CFR)

    Sir Montgomery “Monty” Persides: Male Human (Flan). Paladin (Hieroneous)
    Defender. Trustworthy but haunted. Strong.

    Lars Loja: Male human (Suel / Flan). Fighter?
    City Guard. Skilled. Trustworthy. Diligent. No BS. (CFR)

    Milleen: Female kobold
    Keeper of Wolves.

    Altansarnai: Female. Tiger Nomad. Ranger?
    Probably good tracker. Might be good on Black Ice? May be issue between her and Njord. His folk and Tiger Nomads don't have best of relations. But would depend on where she is from (clan).

    Hjálmar Frjálsmaður: Male. Fighter?
    Very strong. Not too bright.

    Ballatia Wishílde Female human (Suel / Flan). Monk?
    Attractive, young, Dancer. Solitary.

    “The Dark One”: Male. Gnome? Mage?

    Merri Flowerfield: Male. Halfling. Thief. Baker/Chef!
    Can cook!

    Mirka Daňo: Female. Human?
    Not trustworthy according to Cap'n F.

    Narend Martracin: Male. High Elf. Assassin.
    Hates orcs. Accused of murder but found completely innocent.

    Lukasz Ravel: Male human (Oerid / Flan). Fighter/Thief?
    City Guard. Promising. Tough. (CFR)

    Crow Jane: Female kenku. Mage?
    Mysterious, but with many possible talents.

    Asila T'shanna: Female Monk
    ???

    Johanna Swiftstoat: Female Halfling Thief?
    Smart, clever.

    Personally recommended (to Highmountain) by Cap'n F:
    Asranith Lasiniir
    Lady Osson
    Viscountess Fluss-Amberhill
    Lars Loja
    Lukasz Ravel

    If any of these are among the +2-group, Njord would suggest them.


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    Fri May 27, 2016 7:49 pm  

    Aurdraco,
    Were there any that received negative totals? Which ones?
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    Fri May 27, 2016 8:14 pm  

    Ask in character :)
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    Note of brief absence.

    Note:

    I may be away all weekend, so i might not be posting again til sunday or monday. Just a heads-up, since we're starting to "roll" a bit.
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    Negative Creeps

    All,

    Verrrry interesting, those who have found favor with you and those who have not. A few, slightly unexpected!


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    Sat May 28, 2016 7:05 pm  

    I'm just choosing the most tasty looking NPCs for when everything falls apart, and we go all Donner Party on each other.

    NOM NOM NOM
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    Lamashtu,

    Just make sure you save some for that cub of yours. A growing girl needs a well-balanced diet.

    Of human...and halfling...and dwarf...and kenku.... Evil Grin


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    Vote Tallies, Saevil's Votes

    Wow, alot of stuff to sift thru. Smile

    Kraftwerk:
    I'm finding the selections rather interesting as well.

    Lamashtu:

    If you get dibs on a bunch of people-snacks, i call dibs on just one: Merrick. I bet he tastes like a succulent cross between lamb and veal! Or maybe all halflings taste just like chicken?

    on a more serious note:

    Quote:

    Code:

    26.  ??  Marissa Osson:  Female Human (Oerid) Cavalier?
    27.  ??  Sir Montgomery Persides:  Male Human (Flan) Paladin (Hieron.)
    28.  ??  Yrist Vrabenn
    29.  ??  Ballatia Wishilde:  Female Human (S/F) Monk?
    30.  ??  Fantisek Mannenheim
    31.  ??  Khandraz
    32.  ??  Sammi Vasternaan
    33.  ??  Morin Thistlefoot
    34.  ??  Mirka Dano


    (Who the bloody hell are these people?)


    These people (from the candidates list), are those that i inferred had either a 00 or a +1 rating, given that they weren't high or low by Aurdraco's tally. But i didn't know which, so i used a ?? symbol.

    Aurdraco/Lamashtu:
    Would like to see Saevil's actual votes, if possible. Doesn't have to be pretty, can be like Ohrin's first votes post. Just curious.
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    Re: Vote Tallies, Saevil's Votes

    Syzygyst wrote:
    Aurdraco/Lamashtu:
    Would like to see Saevil's actual votes, if possible. Doesn't have to be pretty, can be like Ohrin's first votes post. Just curious.


    I have updated a previous post to include Saevil's voting record.
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    Syzygyst in the IC thread wrote:
    POST DISCUSSION/FIRST-TALLY

    Group Size: BIG QUESTION
    Njord wonders if it might even be better to take most of the candidates (like 30+, instead of 20). As, i think it was Sævil, mentioned supplies and such from the Tusking Land -- maybe it would be best to bring alot of extra people in case we need to set up multiple camps, and leave people as relay and/or rally points. We might even just take all those candidates we have any positive (+1) vibe toward whatsoever. We can always (and this may seem harsh, but ya know what desperate times call for) send people back if they aren't working out. Is there reason(s) we couldn't take that many?


    Ohrin would definitely be against taking more companions than The Little One suggested. While the idea of more help for camps is not a bad one, Ohrin believes more bodies would equal more trouble, more dead weight, more personality clashes, etc. If people live on the Tusking Land, then Ohrin would instead suggest that they be recruited or hired to help.

    Syzygyst in the IC thread wrote:
    Individual Size (Short):
    Njord doesn't know how to resolve this. He's on the fence. If he had to choose he'd say we'll just deal with it if we have to, and be prepared with some sort of sled/toboggan system just in case. Which might also be needed for wounded people anyway. ? Maybe we could just do a three-count vote (yea/nay) to even worry about it. Njord would go with NAY.


    Ohrin considers this a non-issue for now, assuming that halflings and gnomes would ride in the baggage train.

    [quote="Syzygyst in the IC thread"]
    Interviews:
    Njord agrees (with Ohrin) that we should try to minimize the interviews if possible, but it might be a good idea to at least do a few to get a feel for some of the members. We can even ask what each of those thinks of the other candidates so we start to get a feel for potential friendships/friction.
    Quote:


    OOC, I do not want to further drag this process out. Each of us has had a chance to have our characters ask about the NPCs from various other NPCs already. We have voted, it's time to move forward with the final whittling.

    [quote="Syzygyst in the IC thread"]Altansarnai:
    We should meet her, especially to get a feel for how she will get along with Njord (and vice versa).


    Sorry, I don't understand why this is important? If Njord didn't want her to come along, he could have voted against her.

    Syzygyst in the IC thread wrote:
    Crow Jane:
    At some point after initial discussions revealed the group's general first-consensus (tally), and seeing that Crow Jane seems to be a fairly definite choice, Njord would offer to:

    a) Go get her and bring her back for an interview.
    b) Go and simply tell her that she has been accepted.

    Milleen:
    See above (Same situation as Crow Jane).

    He could do the same for Milleen (a or b). He doesn't want to keep Crow Jane waiting. As it's probably 8pm or so by the time the first round of talks end. ???


    Ohrin doesn't want any more NPCs in the HQ tonight. What need is there to interview them, the vote reveals that they have been selected? Ohrin appreciates Njord's offer to go and tell Crow Jane that she has been selected. However, we all need to agree on a timetable plan first. Ohrin suggests the following:
    Code:

    Tonight: Finalize the list.
    Tonight: Send out word to those selected to meet at the HQ tomorrow morning after breakfast (we aren't feeding them all, yet!).
    Tomorrow morning: Have a quick chat with all of the selected petitioners.
    Tomorrow: Selected petitioners have the day to prepare.
    Day after tomorrow: Petitioners are to meet back up at HQ 30 minutes before dawn, ready to go.
    Day after tomorrow: Expedition departs at dawn.


    Syzygyst in the IC thread wrote:
    Others To Interview
    Here's a list of some others that have been mentioned for interview (by Njord or Sævil). We need to now simply make a list of people we definitely want to interview. Here's a start (N means Njord desires, S for Saevil, N/S both). With some notes.

    Code:

    +5  A'sila T'shanna: (N): She is loner? Work well in group?
    +4  Altarnarsai:  (N) -- Make sure they will get along.
    +4  Crow Jane: (S)
    +3  Slava:  (N/S)
    ------------------------------------------------------
    +2  Jonas Cerny: (S) Military Mountaineer.
    +2  Merrick Flowerfield: (N/S) Chef, Is he Stout enough for journey?
    +2  Faeranna Nightsky: (N/S)
    +2  Idriel von Fluss-Amberhill:  (N/S): Cap'n F certified.
    +2  Lertan Stonemilker: (N/S) Chef.
    +2  Markus Restantin: (N/S)
    +2  Gerrit Lashander: (N/S)
    -------------------------------------
    ??  Marissa Osson: (N) Cap'n F recommended. She may be quite tough?
    -1  The Dark One: (N/S) (Same reason, curiosity), Also CapN F okayed.



    [* Haven't yet figured how to whittle this down. Will think more soon. Things are moving, gents! *]


    Again, I am not sure on why so many need to be interviewed. I believe interviewing so many will merely slow us down, both IC and OOC, which I want to avoid. The only ones Ohrin thinks should be interviewed are:
    Code:

    Idriel von Fluss-Amberhill (what does she bring to the table?)
    Lucion Inmarial (only if Njord and Saevil are attempting to remove him from the list)
    Jonas Cerny (to see if he will come without his friend)
    Gerrit Lashander (only if Njord and Saevil are attempting to remove from the list)


    As for the rest (Ohrin's thoughts in parenthesis):
    Crap! Lady Armiger Marissa Osson of Almor got +4, I failed to put her in the lists.
    Code:

    +5  A'sila T'shanna: (N): She is loner? Work well in group? (So what? She volunteered; we might as well ask that of all the petitioners)
    +4  Altarnarsai:  (N) -- Make sure they will get along. (Ohrin does not know why this matters)
    +4  Crow Jane: (S) (Why?)
    +3  Slava:  (N/S) (Why?)
    ------------------------------------------------------
    +2  Jonas Cerny: (S) Military Mountaineer. (The only thing Ohrin wants to ask him is if he will still come if his friend, the Pholtan, does not)
    +2  Merrick Flowerfield: (N/S) Chef, Is he Stout enough for journey? (Either we are taking halflings and gnomes or we aren't, what is the concern?)
    +2  Faeranna Nightsky: (N/S) (Why?)
    +2  Idriel von Fluss-Amberhill:  (N/S): Cap'n F certified. (Ohrin is okay with interviewing)
    +2  Lertan Stonemilker: (N/S) Chef. (Why?)
    +2  Markus Restantin: (N/S) (Why?)
    +2  Gerrit Lashander: (N/S) (Why?)
    -------------------------------------
    +4  Marissa Osson: (N) Cap'n F recommended. She may be quite tough? (see note above, no need to interview imo)
    -1  The Dark One: (N/S) (Same reason, curiosity), Also CapN F okayed. (Waste of time if not being selected)
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    Re: Vote Tallies, Saevil's Votes

    aurdraco wrote:
    Syzygyst wrote:
    Aurdraco/Lamashtu:
    Would like to see Saevil's actual votes, if possible. Doesn't have to be pretty, can be like Ohrin's first votes post. Just curious.


    I have updated a previous post to include Saevil's voting record.


    Thanks so much!
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    Aurdraco,

    Thanks for showing Saevil's votes.

    Kraftwerk, Lamashtu
    Will need your input on the following, as Njord/Ohrin are in a bit of a disagreement.

    Departure Time:

    Unfortunately, Aurdraco's initial timeframe seems a little off. The first group (going for the Egg) is leaving 3 days from today (the day after the day after tomorrow). We, on the other hand, are supposed to leave after them (by a couple days), no later than 3 days after the initial group (6 days hence). Here's a modified timeline (suggestion).

    Code:

    TIMELINE FOR DEPARTURE:

    Day  Event
    0.   Day 0. Today. The Day of Origin. Been a busy day!
    1.   Interviews.
    2.   Finish Interviews. Final Selections. Verify w/ big-wigs? Send word?
    3.   EGG-Group Leaves. Meet with selectees in late morning. Answer Q's.
    4.   Another meetup at dawn. Getting ready. Answer more Q's.
    5.   30 minutes before-dawn meetup. Leave at dawn (or shortly after).
    6.   The last day we are to leave. Have ALREADY left.


    This may or may not change your (Aurdraco's) outlook on the interview process. In other words, we have a few days to kill. I have no problem changing this schedule around a bit, but we should probably leave on day 5 or 6, as the Little One wanted a gap between her departure and our departure.


    Group Size (Number On Expedition)
    I understand the drawbacks to the group size, but there may be at least as many bonuses. It's not like there won't be friction with 23 people on a journey, vs 24 or more. Note, if we decide on a larger size, that may limit the interviews, as we might just end up taking all selectees with a positive (+1+) score, for example. Also, if we do want a larger group, taking people from Corus seems preferable to hirelings from the Tusking Strand, as our home-towners have something personal invested in the venture. We'd also face similar (frictional) issues with outside hirelings anyway. The more Njord ponders it, the more he likes the idea of staggered camps. Being out in the middle of the Black Ice and simply dying of deprivation doesn't appeal to him.

    Individual Size (Short) (SETTLED)
    SETTLED. No longer an issue. At least Njord and Ohrin agree it will be dealt with as it comes. Please speak, Lam/Saevil, if you have objections.

    Altansarnai:
    I believe i did mention somewhere in the posts specifically why this may be a problem. Unfortunately, it may have just bled into a mess of other text. The Tiger Nomads (her) and Njord's folk do not have good relations. In fact, when Njord left his homeland, they were at war with at least one of the northern TN tribes. They have had problems for years and years. If she somehow knows who Njord is (or what people he belongs to), she may have an issue. In other words, there's a chance she might even want to kill Njord. Thus, the desire for an interview. Captain Fireheart was a little surprised Njord was willing to vote for the woman. Njord will, at the very least, visit her on his own, but would rather everyone meet her, in case he misses some diabolical glint in her eye.

    List Of Candidates
    Here's an updated list (with Osson at +4) for Njord. We have 14 definites (except for Altarnarsai). I've put an asterisk for candidates Njord would definitely like to interview (and why in notes). An exclamation point means Njord will go visit that person if a group interview is not desired.

    Code:

    01.  +5  Milleen
    02.* +5  A'sila T'shanna
    03.  +5  Soren Stormcloud
    04.  +4  Asranith Lasiniir
    05.! +4  Altarnarsai ?
    06.  +4  Marissa Osson
    07.  +4  Lukasz Ravel
    08.  +4  Johanna Swiftstoat
    09.  +4  Crow Jane
    10.  +4  Kelvan Farstrider
    11.  +3  Lars Loja
    12.  +3  Hjalmir Frjalsmaur
    13.  +3  Nevin Stoutshield
    14.* +3  Slava: Make sure half-orc is personable enough.
    ------------------------------------------------------
    15.  +2  Karstren Esil
    16.  +2  Jonas Cerny
    17.* +2  Merrick Flowerfield: Make sure he's stout enough.
    18.* +2  Faeranna Nightsky: A mystery. Nobody really knows her?
    19.* +2  Idriel von Fluss-Amberhill: Make sure she's tough.
    20.  +2  Lucion Inmarial
    -------------------------------------------------------
    -- the 20 cutoff --
    --------------------------------------------------------
    21.* +2  Lertan Stonemilker: Is truly a good cook. Tough in other ways?
    22.  +2  Renada Rabbitwarren
    23.  +2  Minek Stonemilker
    24.  +2  Kharaz Stonemilker
    25.* +2  Markus Restantin: Trustworthy?
    26.* +2  Gerrit Lashander: Out of control mage?
    -------------------------------------------------
    27.  ??  Sir Montgomery Persides
    28.  ??  Yrist Vrabenn
    29.  ??  Ballatia Wishilde
    30.  ??  Fantisek Mannenheim
    31.  ??  Khandraz
    32.  ??  Sammi Vasternaan
    33.  ??  Morin Thistlefoot
    34.  ??  Mirka Dano
    --------------------------------------------------
    35.! -1  The Dark One: Might have something really cool to offer.
    36.  -1  Ruslana Heatherplans
    37.  -2  Narend Matracin
    38.  -2  Monek Friedrich
    39.  -3  Jinmiir Ristolier


    Interviews In General:
    Interviews do a few things. Weed out people we don't want. We might find out that someone has gifts that we actually would like to have along. (The Dark One comes to mind) Etc. Along these lines, we might find that some of our +2's or even +3's may be less desirable than a +1, eg. Ideally, we'd interview just about every candidate, if there was time. Also, Njord knows only about 5 of these people. He got cursory data from Cap'n F on some of the others. So he's really in the dark about 50% to 70% of these folks.

    Njord's General Stance
    Take as many people as we can (given that they seem a positive inclusion), and interview as many as we can. (Note, the interview process can be streamlined -- we don't have to have full dialogue with every candidate -- unless KW wants it that way ?). We should decide on one factor, and the other one would follow. Njord suggests 30, rather than 20 selectees. (And he'd even take more).

    Possible Compromise
    We could just take all volunteers that have a +2 or more. That gives 26 volunteers. If we want more (ie, if Saevil also wishes a larger group), we can then whittle down the interview list. ?

    Lamashtu:
    Please weigh in on the group size (number in party), the possibility of hirelings on the Strand, and interviewees, as your input will likely act as the deciding factor. And please add any input on anything else you desire.

    Kraftwerk:
    Some of this may be determined by how you actually want to go about the interviews. Also: Njord is very aware that Crow Jane was sent away, he wishes to go visit her (and Milleen) ASAP.
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    Syzygyst wrote:
    Departure Time:

    Unfortunately, Aurdraco's initial timeframe seems a little off. The first group (going for the Egg) is leaving 3 days from today (the day after the day after tomorrow). We, on the other hand, are supposed to leave after them (by a couple days), no later than 3 days after the initial group (6 days hence). Here's a modified timeline (suggestion).


    Ah yes, I must have swapped the two in my head. I, and hence Ohrin, thought we were in a hurry. Danger of a slow-paced game, sorry about that.

    Syzygyst wrote:
    Code:

    TIMELINE FOR DEPARTURE:

    Day  Event
    0.   Day 0. Today. The Day of Origin. Been a busy day!
    1.   Interviews.
    2.   Finish Interviews. Final Selections. Verify w/ big-wigs? Send word?
    3.   EGG-Group Leaves. Meet with selectees in late morning. Answer Q's.
    4.   Another meetup at dawn. Getting ready. Answer more Q's.
    5.   30 minutes before-dawn meetup. Leave at dawn (or shortly after).
    6.   The last day we are to leave. Have ALREADY left.


    This may or may not change your (Aurdraco's) outlook on the interview process. In other words, we have a few days to kill. I have no problem changing this schedule around a bit, but we should probably leave on day 5 or 6, as the Little One wanted a gap between her departure and our departure.


    Awesome, looks good. Yeah, this removes a lot of Ohrin's objections to a drawn out interviewing process.

    Syzygyst wrote:
    Group Size (Number On Expedition)
    I understand the drawbacks to the group size, but there may be at least as many bonuses. It's not like there won't be friction with 23 people on a journey, vs 24 or more. Note, if we decide on a larger size, that may limit the interviews, as we might just end up taking all selectees with a positive (+1+) score, for example. Also, if we do want a larger group, taking people from Corus seems preferable to hirelings from the Tusking Strand, as our home-towners have something personal invested in the venture. We'd also face similar (frictional) issues with outside hirelings anyway. The more Njord ponders it, the more he likes the idea of staggered camps. Being out in the middle of the Black Ice and simply dying of deprivation doesn't appeal to him.


    I would prefer if we only select someone with a +2 or higher as that means that at least 2 people voted a +1 for them or one voted a confident +2. We can re-vote after the interviews.

    Syzygyst wrote:
    Altansarnai:
    I believe i did mention somewhere in the posts specifically why this may be a problem. Unfortunately, it may have just bled into a mess of other text. The Tiger Nomads (her) and Njord's folk do not have good relations. In fact, when Njord left his homeland, they were at war with at least one of the northern TN tribes. They have had problems for years and years. If she somehow knows who Njord is (or what people he belongs to), she may have an issue. In other words, there's a chance she might even want to kill Njord. Thus, the desire for an interview. Captain Fireheart was a little surprised Njord was willing to vote for the woman. Njord will, at the very least, visit her on his own, but would rather everyone meet her, in case he misses some diabolical glint in her eye.


    I do not read the posts of the other characters when Ohrin is not there and I do not recall this being explained in-character to him. Until that is done, he will not understand what the problem is.

    Syzygyst wrote:
    List Of Candidates
    Here's an updated list (with Osson at +4) for Njord. We have 14 definites (except for Altarnarsai). I've put an asterisk for candidates Njord would definitely like to interview (and why in notes). An exclamation point means Njord will go visit that person if a group interview is not desired.


    I think all interviews should occur as a group.

    Syzygyst wrote:
    Code:

    01.  +5  Milleen
    02.* +5  A'sila T'shanna
    03.  +5  Soren Stormcloud
    04.  +4  Asranith Lasiniir
    05.! +4  Altarnarsai ?
    06.  +4  Marissa Osson
    07.  +4  Lukasz Ravel
    08.  +4  Johanna Swiftstoat
    09.  +4  Crow Jane
    10.  +4  Kelvan Farstrider
    11.  +3  Lars Loja
    12.  +3  Hjalmir Frjalsmaur
    13.  +3  Nevin Stoutshield
    14.* +3  Slava: Make sure half-orc is personable enough.
    ------------------------------------------------------
    15.  +2  Karstren Esil
    16.  +2  Jonas Cerny
    17.* +2  Merrick Flowerfield: Make sure he's stout enough.
    18.* +2  Faeranna Nightsky: A mystery. Nobody really knows her?
    19.* +2  Idriel von Fluss-Amberhill: Make sure she's tough.
    20.  +2  Lucion Inmarial
    -------------------------------------------------------
    -- the 20 cutoff --
    --------------------------------------------------------
    21.* +2  Lertan Stonemilker: Is truly a good cook. Tough in other ways?
    22.  +2  Renada Rabbitwarren
    23.  +2  Minek Stonemilker
    24.  +2  Kharaz Stonemilker
    25.* +2  Markus Restantin: Trustworthy?
    26.* +2  Gerrit Lashander: Out of control mage?
    -------------------------------------------------
    27.  ??  Sir Montgomery Persides
    28.  ??  Yrist Vrabenn
    29.  ??  Ballatia Wishilde
    30.  ??  Fantisek Mannenheim
    31.  ??  Khandraz
    32.  ??  Sammi Vasternaan
    33.  ??  Morin Thistlefoot
    34.  ??  Mirka Dano
    --------------------------------------------------
    35.! -1  The Dark One: Might have something really cool to offer.
    36.  -1  Ruslana Heatherplans
    37.  -2  Narend Matracin
    38.  -2  Monek Friedrich
    39.  -3  Jinmiir Ristolier


    Interviews In General:
    Interviews do a few things. Weed out people we don't want. We might find out that someone has gifts that we actually would like to have along. (The Dark One comes to mind) Etc. Along these lines, we might find that some of our +2's or even +3's may be less desirable than a +1, eg. Ideally, we'd interview just about every candidate, if there was time. Also, Njord knows only about 5 of these people. He got cursory data from Cap'n F on some of the others. So he's really in the dark about 50% to 70% of these folks.


    Tomorrow, I will turn my spreadsheet into a shared document spreadsheet so that we can all change our votes, add notes, etc.

    Syzygyst wrote:
    Njord's General Stance
    Take as many people as we can (given that they seem a positive inclusion), and interview as many as we can. (Note, the interview process can be streamlined -- we don't have to have full dialogue with every candidate -- unless KW wants it that way ?). We should decide on one factor, and the other one would follow. Njord suggests 30, rather than 20 selectees. (And he'd even take more).

    Possible Compromise
    We could just take all volunteers that have a +2 or more. That gives 26 volunteers. If we want more (ie, if Saevil also wishes a larger group), we can then whittle down the interview list. ?


    Ohrin sticks to wanting only those who earn at least a +2 in the voting system with the caveat that no one just start throwing +2 votes around just to get our numbers up. If that happens, he will insist that a petitioner must be positively voted for by at least two of the expedition co-chairs. I am not sold on a larger group being beneficial; what if the the town needs defenders? Etc. If the Little One suggested 20, he assumes she had a reason.
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    Aurdraco,

    Quote:

    I would prefer if we only select someone with a +2 or higher as that means that at least 2 people voted a +1 for them or one voted a confident +2. We can re-vote after the interviews.


    That's fine.


    Quote:

    I do not read the posts of the other characters when Ohrin is not there and I do not recall this being explained in-character to him. Until that is done, he will not understand what the problem is.


    I'll come back to this in a minute.


    Quote:

    I think all interviews should occur as a group.


    I agree. Ideally, at least. However, we may find a situation in which the interviewees chosen by the group, don't cover those that each of us feels a definite desire/need to see. Such is the case with the Tiger Nomad. That is someone that Njord feels he must meet. If Ohrin and Saevil opt to exclude her from the group interview list, then Njord will have to visit her on her own. Just as Ohrin may do for other volunteers if he wishes.

    Quote:

    Tomorrow, I will turn my spreadsheet into a shared document spreadsheet so that we can all change our votes, add notes, etc.


    Cool. Look forward to it.

    Quote:

    Ohrin sticks to wanting only those who earn at least a +2 in the voting system with the caveat that no one just start throwing +2 votes around just to get our numbers up. If that happens, he will insist that a petitioner must be positively voted for by at least two of the expedition co-chairs.


    My initial suggestion of the +2-ers was for the current vote. I wasn't even thinking of another final (changed) vote. I assure you that Njord will be voting what he actually thinks of each candidate, not 'massaging' the vote for his own ends.

    Quote:

    I am not sold on a larger group being beneficial; what if the the town needs defenders? Etc. If the Little One suggested 20, he assumes she had a reason.


    Njord is not altogether sold on a larger group, as well. All he has heard is that the Black Ice is deadly. The idea of multiple camps and supply lines also seems appealing for various reasons. A bigger group seems better to him than a smaller group, at this point. Safety in numbers, and so on. We aren't (at this point) sneaking into a castle, we're on a wilderness trek. Saevil's input (or more from KW) may decide this. As for the Little One saying the 20 number, i'm now going back to the point i skipped, about Altansarnai:

    Quote:

    I do not read the posts of the other characters when Ohrin is not there and I do not recall this being explained in-character to him. Until that is done, he will not understand what the problem is.


    ...um...

    Kraftwerk, and Everyone:

    I'm new here. I need a method-check for our current communication system. I'm assuming the OOC thread is for EVERYONE to read, like everyone hearing things that are being openly said at the game-table. So even dialogue between myself and Kraftwerk (the GM) is heard by everbody. I ask this because i've been fishing for and giving info assuming everyone is reading these OOC posts. If i need to speak to KW privately, i send him email. If i'm under the wrong impression, please let me know.

    This leads me to...

    Altansarnai and Njord, Et Al:
    The bit about her and Njord was included in this OOC thread, not in the IC thread. I included it as a bit of general info being passed around (amongst our characters). It may have been easy to miss amidst the other bits, but it's there. Just as many other bits of general, clustered info, like our votes, has been passed here.

    It was posted previously, then posted again in very recent conversation here in OOC, consolidating the general discussion happening in the room (that is too lengthy to actually go into in the IC thread). So, i'm now under the assumption that Ohrin has been passed (told) that information about the Tiger Nomad. I'm also assuming that all the stuff in the previous few OOC posts reflects things that are actually being discussed by the characters, in addition to the players. Again, if this is wrong, then let me know, and we'll need a more concrete way of going about this.


    The 20 Max, and the Little One:
    I asked KW about this (openly) on this OOC thread. He said that it was a general suggestion by the Little One, not a directive set in stone. He then said that it's basically up to us to decide on the actual number. As of yet, Njord doesn't have any direct info that states that we'll have supply issues, or other problems, based on a larger group. It could be that we can't even get 30 people over to the mainland, and so that would solve that, but there's no data to support that, as of yet.


    So Here's my Suggestion for Proceeding:

    A) Number Of Volunteers: We lock down how many we'd like to take. This may mean going and visiting the Little One in the morning (or other sources, like the shipmaster). It may also be solved by Lam/Saevil, if he says, "No we take 20 Volunteers" That would be fine, as he would be in agreement with Ohrin and that would settle that. Alternatively, of course, KW could just say: "Shut up! You're taking 20 volunteers!"

    B) Choose Interviewees: After the number, then we decide on interviewees. Note, our current schedule (my suggested one, at least), gives us a day to play with, so if we run long on info gathering/interviews, we can always leave on the 6th day out instead of the 5th.

    If that doesn't work, then i'm not sure what to do, other than:

    NJORD HAS TO GO RELEASE CROW JANE FROM MILLEEN, SO HE DOES SO.
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    Syzygyst wrote:
    Njord is not altogether sold on a larger group, as well. All he has heard is that the Black Ice is deadly. The idea of multiple camps and supply lines also seems appealing for various reasons. A bigger group seems better to him than a smaller group, at this point. Safety in numbers, and so on. We aren't (at this point) sneaking into a castle, we're on a wilderness trek. Saevil's input (or more from KW) may decide this. As for the Little One saying the 20 number, i'm now going back to the point i skipped, about Altansarnai:

    Quote:

    I do not read the posts of the other characters when Ohrin is not there and I do not recall this being explained in-character to him. Until that is done, he will not understand what the problem is.


    ...um...

    Kraftwerk, and Everyone:

    I'm new here. I need a method-check for our current communication system. I'm assuming the OOC thread is for EVERYONE to read, like everyone hearing things that are being openly said at the game-table. So even dialogue between myself and Kraftwerk (the GM) is heard by everbody. I ask this because i've been fishing for and giving info assuming everyone is reading these OOC posts. If i need to speak to KW privately, i send him email. If i'm under the wrong impression, please let me know.


    If the OOC post contains information that Ohrin would not know, or that would not concern him, then, even if I read it, I will not file it away. I am completely against meta gaming.

    Syzygyst wrote:
    This leads me to...

    Altansarnai and Njord, Et Al:
    The bit about her and Njord was included in this OOC thread, not in the IC thread. I included it as a bit of general info being passed around (amongst our characters). It may have been easy to miss amidst the other bits, but it's there. Just as many other bits of general, clustered info, like our votes, has been passed here.


    Again, dangers of the slow pace of the PbP. I am not going to recall every bit of minutia typed, especially for weeks and weeks, and especially if I feel that Ohrin would not know that information.

    Syzygyst wrote:
    It was posted previously, then posted again in very recent conversation here in OOC, consolidating the general discussion happening in the room (that is too lengthy to actually go into in the IC thread). So, i'm now under the assumption that Ohrin has been passed (told) that information about the Tiger Nomad. I'm also assuming that all the stuff in the previous few OOC posts reflects things that are actually being discussed by the characters, in addition to the players. Again, if this is wrong, then let me know, and we'll need a more concrete way of going about this.


    It was not posted in conversation; there was some vague reference made during various listings of petitioners and votes. Yes, I understand that some of these OOC posts are a way of hand-waving IC discussions. But since the earlier Altansarnai stuff was old and buried, I and Ohrin had no idea what you were trying to get at. To move on, it's safe to assume that Njord has explained the Altansarnai concern to Saevil and Ohrin.

    Syzygyst wrote:
    The 20 Max, and the Little One:
    I asked KW about this (openly) on this OOC thread. He said that it was a general suggestion by the Little One, not a directive set in stone.

    _I_ understand that. I am roleplaying Ohrin believing that if the Little One thinks 20 is a good number, then 20 is a good number.

    Syzygyst wrote:
    He then said that it's basically up to us to decide on the actual number. As of yet, Njord doesn't have any direct info that states that we'll have supply issues, or other problems, based on a larger group. It could be that we can't even get 30 people over to the mainland, and so that would solve that, but there's no data to support that, as of yet.


    I also don't want to spend six more weeks interviewing 30 NPCs to make sure that everyone is going to be able to get along. IC, Ohrin thinks a smaller group is less likely to attract attention and trouble. While the size of the group will itself be a deterrent against most encounters a normal-sized adventuring party would experience, it could instead invite larger scale attacks and, perhaps, monsters. But, before we decide, let's just get through the interviewing process since your two PCs need to learn more about many of the petitioners.

    Syzygyst wrote:
    So Here's my Suggestion for Proceeding:

    A) Number Of Volunteers: We lock down how many we'd like to take. This may mean going and visiting the Little One in the morning (or other sources, like the shipmaster). It may also be solved by Lam/Saevil, if he says, "No we take 20 Volunteers" That would be fine, as he would be in agreement with Ohrin and that would settle that. Alternatively, of course, KW could just say: "Shut up! You're taking 20 volunteers!"

    B) Choose Interviewees: After the number, then we decide on interviewees. Note, our current schedule (my suggested one, at least), gives us a day to play with, so if we run long on info gathering/interviews, we can always leave on the 6th day out instead of the 5th.

    If that doesn't work, then i'm not sure what to do, other than:

    NJORD HAS TO GO RELEASE CROW JANE FROM MILLEEN, SO HE DOES SO.


    It makes no sense to assume that our first vote was binding if you also feel the need to interview various NPCs in order to consider them for inclusion or exclusion. It's clear that the first vote was rushed because I/Ohrin thought we needed to rush. It's also clear that your two PCs do not know as much about the NPCs and that it would be beneficial for all of us if we start this process anew. Therefore, I propose the following system:
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    We will re-vote for all 39 NPCs on a shared spreadsheet so that we can all see the votes and notes.
    However, in addition to the range from -3 to +3, you can now also vote "TK".
    A TK vote means that your vote is pending an interview with said NPC.
    We then compile a list of all NPCs which have received a TK vote from any of our PCs.
    We invite those NPCs to be interviewed.
    Ohrin would prefer that the NPCs all arrive at the same time, even if it means that they have to sit around waiting while interviews are conducted, as he wants to cast know alignment (duration: 1 turn, target is 1 creature per round; thus, they all need to be present, or arrive 1 per round) on the interviewees.
    Not only is he looking to weed out any hidden evil NPCs, but he also wants to be sure that we avoid sticking a LG NPC on a mission with a CN NPC, etc.
    We interview those NPCs.
    We then vote for or against those NPCs as our PCs see fit.
    As soon as all 39 NPCs have 3 non-TK votes, we tally the results.
    We then discuss the results in light of party-size, etc.
    We then choose who is going.
    We then relay the acceptances to the NPCs.
    SHOULD ANY OF THEM DECLINE, for whatever reason, we revisit accepting someone else in their place (hopefully sans interview).
    We finalize the party.


    To be clear, Ohrin shares these thoughts with Njord and Saevil IC.

    THEREFORE, please do not go rushing off for Crow Jane and Milleen. I/Ohrin do not understand what the rush is.

    Finally, part of my frustration is the fact that Crow Jane was invited to HQ before we had even hashed out our processes and timelines.

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    gobbledygook

    Hi Aurdraco/Casey (and everyone),

    Your concerns are heard, understood, and noted. We've just been having some communication problems. Basically, you and i have both been under certain assumptions about how information has been being passed, or should be passed. We can clear this up without much of a problem. Probably will entail a tagging system for OOC posts that represent actual comm between characters (ie -- that might otherwise be put in the IC channel). I'll ponder it. If you have suggestions, please let me/us know.

    Crow Jane, and Protocol
    But there is one thing i have to note, as it seems to have been an initiator for your frustration. We are playing characters, and so certain things that Njord (or Saevil) does, may not jive with how Ohrin wants them to be done. Specifically, i'm referring to the Crow Jane incident. To give you perspective, Njord was kinda 'high' after coming out of the Captain's. Crow Jane was there, walking right toward our HQ, and seeming cold. Njord, being somewhat considerate, and very curious, just thought it a nice gesture to invite her in, as well as possibly 'killing one bird with a stone,' by getting a possible interview out of the way. In other words, at that time, he wasn't thinking of possible HQ protocol, which had not even been discussed between the 'chairs' yet. Had we established some sort of guest/interview system, Njord might not have invited her in.

    This is going to happen throughout the game, where we (as players) will disagree, or our characters will disagree or otherwise act in a way that another might find illogical or unsatisfactory. This is, perhaps unfortunately, a reflection of real life. Another instance that Ohrin may have to deal with is Astafrejlva, as he seemed none too happy about having animals in the HQ. This, too, can be discussed. But note, things are going to be worse (even more 'untidy') during the journey, with the host of people we'll be leading and the encounters along the way.

    Game Pace
    It was seeming that you wanted to hurry things along, in sort of a condensed discussion of matters, even to the point of almost eliminating interviews. This may have been due to the hectic schedule (3 days) that you thought we were under, but it seemed more likely that you might not be fond of the pace of the game in general. If this is the case, please bring it up, especially with Kraftwerk, our illustrious GM. Things might be tailored to find a happy medium of pace for all involved.

    Where The Party Stands
    Basically, (and unless KW overrules this), it seems that we've spent at least an hour, maybe even closer to 2, in discussion. We have accomplished some things: we have a first vote, and we know that we might have a disagreement about the number of people to take, that may have to be resolved. This is not bad for an hour-and-a-half of discussion. As far as your new vote-system, that may or may not have to wait for Njord to return (I await KW's verdict on time-passed). Because...

    Crow Jane, and Njord's Urgency
    Unfortunately, Njord invited Jane in for an interview. Ohrin then dismissed her for a time in order to discuss matters. Njord is feeling bad about having invited her in, and then having her go elsewhere to 'wait' for an unspecified amount of time. This is, according to Njord, somewhat rude, and isn't really a good reflection on our trio as leaders. So, he wants to go give her the 'good' news as a way of making amends for the slight. As, Njord realizes, morale is likely to be incredibly important on this venture.

    Oh, i'll start the clarification process, maybe something like this:

    IC:
    I'm assuming that Ohrin has expressed his frustration about the lack of protocol, and the issues now arising vis-a-vis the selection process. Njord notes them and wants to clarify our methods, but it may have to wait until he returns, as he has explained his predicament regarding Jane. Njord is currently about to get ready and head out the door, assuming that much time has passed. If he leaves, perhaps Ohrin and Saevil could further discuss the number of volunteers to take?


    Anyway, i hope that clears some stuff up (or heads us in that direction). Hope this can all be resolved shortly and we can be on our way into interviews and, thence, onto the Black Ice!


    I will now refrain from posting until we hear from KW. KW?
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    Google Drive spreadsheet here. Anyone using this link can edit the document.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kQH5PVjArJdjuNxDSaWbRzNz5aix_-3HYdn9zoa1qHs/edit?usp=sharing

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    Re: gobbledygook

    Syzygyst wrote:
    Crow Jane, and Protocol
    But there is one thing i have to note, as it seems to have been an initiator for your frustration. We are playing characters, and so certain things that Njord (or Saevil) does, may not jive with how Ohrin wants them to be done. Specifically, i'm referring to the Crow Jane incident. To give you perspective, Njord was kinda 'high' after coming out of the Captain's. Crow Jane was there, walking right toward our HQ, and seeming cold. Njord, being somewhat considerate, and very curious, just thought it a nice gesture to invite her in, as well as possibly 'killing one bird with a stone,' by getting a possible interview out of the way. In other words, at that time, he wasn't thinking of possible HQ protocol, which had not even been discussed between the 'chairs' yet. Had we established some sort of guest/interview system, Njord might not have invited her in.


    I undertand that, it is a natural part of the game. However, MY frustration stems from the fact that we, as a group, failed to discuss protocols before we went rushing about. I was guilty of that too. I just never suspected anyone would invite an NPC to the HQ. Ohrin is frustrated for the same reason, albeit in-character.

    Syzygyst wrote:
    Game Pace
    It was seeming that you wanted to hurry things along, in sort of a condensed discussion of matters, even to the point of almost eliminating interviews. This may have been due to the hectic schedule (3 days) that you thought we were under, but it seemed more likely that you might not be fond of the pace of the game in general. If this is the case, please bring it up, especially with Kraftwerk, our illustrious GM. Things might be tailored to find a happy medium of pace for all involved.


    I am not interested in a narrative PbP campaign that will take months to resolve planning, encounters, etc. Yes, part of it was the fact that I thought we had a condensed timeline to work with. Let's get this show on the road.

    Syzygyst wrote:
    Where The Party Stands
    Basically, (and unless KW overrules this), it seems that we've spent at least an hour, maybe even closer to 2, in discussion. We have accomplished some things: we have a first vote, and we know that we might have a disagreement about the number of people to take, that may have to be resolved. This is not bad for an hour-and-a-half of discussion. As far as your new vote-system, that may or may not have to wait for Njord to return (I await KW's verdict on time-passed). Because...

    Crow Jane, and Njord's Urgency
    Unfortunately, Njord invited Jane in for an interview. Ohrin then dismissed her for a time in order to discuss matters. Njord is feeling bad about having invited her in, and then having her go elsewhere to 'wait' for an unspecified amount of time. This is, according to Njord, somewhat rude, and isn't really a good reflection on our trio as leaders. So, he wants to go give her the 'good' news as a way of making amends for the slight. As, Njord realizes, morale is likely to be incredibly important on this venture.


    This is completely unacceptable to both myself and Ohrin until we have resolved our procedural issues. It is Njord's fault that he invited her without consulting with the other two PCs; he can go explain to her that we aren't yet ready for interviews after all. There is no good news to give her; as has been established logically, if the first vote didn't really count, because of the need to interview, then there are no final results and no one has been accepted to the venture officially. Telling her that she has now would be rude both in-and and out-of-character to us, imo.

    Syzygyst wrote:
    Oh, i'll start the clarification process, maybe something like this:

    IC:
    I'm assuming that Ohrin has expressed his frustration about the lack of protocol, and the issues now arising vis-a-vis the selection process. Njord notes them and wants to clarify our methods, but it may have to wait until he returns, as he has explained his predicament regarding Jane. Njord is currently about to get ready and head out the door, assuming that much time has passed. If he leaves, perhaps Ohrin and Saevil could further discuss the number of volunteers to take?


    Sure, we can assume that Ohrin has explained himself (I was hoping he wouldn't have to). Again, waiting to cement our methodology for Njord is unacceptable to both myself and Ohrin. IMO, Njord needs to stay put as Crow Jane is not receiving an official invite at this time due to the first vote being no-longer binding. The sooner we get this resolved, the sooner Njord can go deal with that. We really need w80/Lamashtu/Saevil to pipe up at this point.


    Syzygyst wrote:
    Hope this can all be resolved shortly and we can be on our way into interviews and, thence, onto the Black Ice!


    Agreed!
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