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Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:37 pm
Where in the Samprastadar Hill?!?
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Ladies and Gents,
Hello! I hope this is the right/best place to ask this, but I registered specifically to see if anyone has the answer...
Jolene of Samprastadar. Important lady, yes? Yes. So where is Samprastadar? I mean, it can't very well be some podunk backwater if the daughter of the Plar of Veluna has taken is as her demonym, can it? So where/what/how big is it?
Many thanks in advance,
LL
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Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:01 pm
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Looks like, per Jason Zavoda's index, that it is mentioned in the LGG on page 130:
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Samprastadar [TWN]
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And that's the only place we know of it for sources published prior to 2003.
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Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:58 am
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Surprisingly, I couldn’t find anything in any of the LG Veluna materials in my archive (though it’s hardly complete).
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Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:48 pm
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Thanks for the replies, gents! Glad to know it's not just me that's coming up empty on this. Never even heard this place-name until recently. I've been playing since '78, and it's always just been "Jolene of Veluna"...
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Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:08 pm
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As far as it being a town, that's speculation on Jason's part unless he knows something we don't. Though that does make sense.
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Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:39 pm
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I think it's the name of her noble house, not a town. It's common in the Living Greyhawk Gazetteer to add "of [noble house]" to the name of nobles. As in "Baron Anladon of Neheli," "Ivid I of Naelax," or "Duke Luschan VIII of Rhola."
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Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:41 pm
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| smillan_31 wrote: |
| As far as it being a town, that's speculation on Jason's part unless he knows something we don't. Though that does make sense. |
That is true. Also [TWN] indicates anything from a hamlet to a city.
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Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:45 am
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Samprastadar Would appear to be the name of her home location or estate. She was a member of the Sarneth family of Grayington. Daughter of Plar Eldried Sarneth of Grayington diocese. See LGJ 1 and 4 and Veluna LG Gazwtteer.
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Note that a family surname is often separate from the name of a noble house. For example, Kimbertos Skotti, who is from Grayhill, is a member of House Lizhal. Baron Jharmok Redlee is a member of House Neheli. Noble houses often include multiple families.
The [NPC name] of [noble house] format in the LGG has caused confusion more than once. To give another example, Bellmeadow is Queen Yolande's house, not a place.
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