Username Password
  or Create an Account
Welcome to... Canonfire! World of GreyhawK
Features
Greyhawk Wiki

#greytalk-discord
    JOIN THE CHAT
    Canonfire :: View topic - Origin of Eclavdra's name
    Canonfire Forum Index -> World of Greyhawk Discussion
    Origin of Eclavdra's name
    Author Message
    Adept Greytalker

    Joined: Aug 13, 2001
    Posts: 440


    Send private message
    Thu Feb 27, 2020 4:25 pm  
    Origin of Eclavdra's name

    Does anyone know if EGG ever revealed the origins of Eclavdra's name?

    I haven't seen it discussed anywhere, and Grodog doesn't even have it on his list of Anagrams, Puns, and Homages.

    While re-reading Sea of Death, I noticed that it's kind of an odd name, that doesn't really roll off the tongue, so I suspected it to be another of EGG's word scrambles.

    Looking closer, "Eclavdra" has most of the same letters as "Dracula," but with a superfluous "e," and a "v" instead of a "u."

    Given that "v" and "u" evolved from the same letter, it seems feasible to me that one of EGG's greatest villains may have taken her name from literature's most famous vampire. That extra "e" may have either been added just to mix it up, or maybe he took it from "draculae," as in "Desmodus draculae," the massive extinct vampire bat of Central and South America.

    Anyone know for sure?
    GreySage

    Joined: Jul 26, 2010
    Posts: 2495
    From: LG Dyvers

    Send private message
    Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:33 pm  

    I don't know, but I am sure intrigued by this possibility. Smile

    SirXaris
    _________________
    SirXaris' Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/SirXaris?ref=hl
    GreySage

    Joined: Aug 03, 2001
    Posts: 3083
    From: Michigan

    Send private message
    Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:31 pm  
    Re: Origin of Eclavdra's name

    Robbastard wrote:
    That extra "e" may have either been added just to mix it up, or maybe he took it from "draculae," as in "Desmodus draculae," the massive extinct vampire bat of Central and South America.


    You might well be on to something with the "Dracula" connection, but I believe Desmodus draculae wasn't officially named until 1988.
    Adept Greytalker

    Joined: Aug 13, 2001
    Posts: 440


    Send private message
    Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:41 pm  
    Re: Origin of Eclavdra's name

    rasgon wrote:
    Robbastard wrote:
    That extra "e" may have either been added just to mix it up, or maybe he took it from "draculae," as in "Desmodus draculae," the massive extinct vampire bat of Central and South America.


    You might well be on to something with the "Dracula" connection, but I believe Desmodus draculae wasn't officially named until 1988.


    Well, there was a dinosaur discovered in Romania in 1975 called Bradycneme draculae, so that's also a possibility. Then again, I'm not such EGG regularly perused paleontology journals, either.
    CF Admin

    Joined: Jun 29, 2001
    Posts: 1379
    From: Wichita, KS, USA

    Send private message
    Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:40 pm  

    A good Q to run by Paul Stormberg, Rob, in case there's some useful info in EGG's manuscripts that Paul's been archiving and curating all these years.

    Allan.
    _________________
    Allan Grohe (grodog@gmail.com)
    http://www.greyhawkonline.com/grodog/greyhawk.html
    Grandmaster Greytalker

    Joined: Jul 09, 2003
    Posts: 1239
    From: Clarksville, TN

    Send private message
    Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:50 am  
    Re: Origin of Eclavdra's name

    rasgon wrote:
    ...You might well be on to something with the "Dracula" connection, but I believe Desmodus draculae wasn't officially named until 1988.


    Well, ECLAVDRA includes VLAD (Dracula's actual name).

    Maybe Vlad Race?

    Or Vlad Caer = Vlad Fortress: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caer
    GreySage

    Joined: Aug 03, 2001
    Posts: 3083
    From: Michigan

    Send private message
    Sat Mar 14, 2020 11:22 am  

    Perhaps it's a feminine form of Eclavdro, which is an anagram for "cave lord."

    It's also a near-anagram for caldera.
    Apprentice Greytalker

    Joined: Jul 16, 2010
    Posts: 19


    Send private message
    Sun Mar 15, 2020 11:32 am  

    I dropped by the Internet Anagram Solver which lets you use multiple words.

    Including her house name, Eclavdra Eilserv, you get some real interesting ones:

    Eviller Cadavers
    Larval Deceivers
    Declares Revival
    Viscera Ravelled

    https://new.wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=Eclavdra+Eilserv&t=500&a=n
    Apprentice Greytalker

    Joined: Nov 22, 2007
    Posts: 69
    From: Denton, Tx

    Send private message
    Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:50 pm  

    Declares Revival sounds like a good fit. The revival of tbe Drow under a new deity.
    Grandmaster Greytalker

    Joined: Nov 07, 2004
    Posts: 1829
    From: Mt. Smolderac

    Send private message
    Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:39 pm  

    Dracula in Romainian is Draculea so the 'e' is there already with that spelling.
    Display posts from previous:   
       Canonfire Forum Index -> World of Greyhawk Discussion All times are GMT - 8 Hours
    Page 1 of 1

    Jump to:  

    You cannot post new topics in this forum
    You cannot reply to topics in this forum
    You cannot edit your posts in this forum
    You cannot delete your posts in this forum
    You cannot vote in polls in this forum


    Forums ©


    Canonfire! is a production of the Thursday Group in assocation with GREYtalk and Canonfire! Enterprises

    Contact the Webmaster.  Long Live Spidasa!


    Greyhawk Gothic Font by Darlene Pekul is used under the Creative Commons License.

    PHP-Nuke Copyright © 2005 by Francisco Burzi. This is free software, and you may redistribute it under the GPL. PHP-Nuke comes with absolutely no warranty, for details, see the license.
    Page Generation: 0.41 Seconds