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Thu Feb 27, 2020 4:25 pm
Origin of Eclavdra's name
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Does anyone know if EGG ever revealed the origins of Eclavdra's name?
I haven't seen it discussed anywhere, and Grodog doesn't even have it on his list of Anagrams, Puns, and Homages.
While re-reading Sea of Death, I noticed that it's kind of an odd name, that doesn't really roll off the tongue, so I suspected it to be another of EGG's word scrambles.
Looking closer, "Eclavdra" has most of the same letters as "Dracula," but with a superfluous "e," and a "v" instead of a "u."
Given that "v" and "u" evolved from the same letter, it seems feasible to me that one of EGG's greatest villains may have taken her name from literature's most famous vampire. That extra "e" may have either been added just to mix it up, or maybe he took it from "draculae," as in "Desmodus draculae," the massive extinct vampire bat of Central and South America.
Anyone know for sure?
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Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:33 pm
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I don't know, but I am sure intrigued by this possibility.
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Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:31 pm
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Robbastard wrote: |
That extra "e" may have either been added just to mix it up, or maybe he took it from "draculae," as in "Desmodus draculae," the massive extinct vampire bat of Central and South America.
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You might well be on to something with the "Dracula" connection, but I believe Desmodus draculae wasn't officially named until 1988.
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Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:41 pm
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rasgon wrote: |
Robbastard wrote: |
That extra "e" may have either been added just to mix it up, or maybe he took it from "draculae," as in "Desmodus draculae," the massive extinct vampire bat of Central and South America.
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You might well be on to something with the "Dracula" connection, but I believe Desmodus draculae wasn't officially named until 1988. |
Well, there was a dinosaur discovered in Romania in 1975 called Bradycneme draculae, so that's also a possibility. Then again, I'm not such EGG regularly perused paleontology journals, either.
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Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:40 pm
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A good Q to run by Paul Stormberg, Rob, in case there's some useful info in EGG's manuscripts that Paul's been archiving and curating all these years.
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Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:50 am
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rasgon wrote: |
...You might well be on to something with the "Dracula" connection, but I believe Desmodus draculae wasn't officially named until 1988. |
Well, ECLAVDRA includes VLAD (Dracula's actual name).
Maybe Vlad Race?
Or Vlad Caer = Vlad Fortress: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caer
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Sat Mar 14, 2020 11:22 am
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Perhaps it's a feminine form of Eclavdro, which is an anagram for "cave lord."
It's also a near-anagram for caldera.
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I dropped by the Internet Anagram Solver which lets you use multiple words.
Including her house name, Eclavdra Eilserv, you get some real interesting ones:
Eviller Cadavers
Larval Deceivers
Declares Revival
Viscera Ravelled
https://new.wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=Eclavdra+Eilserv&t=500&a=n
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Declares Revival sounds like a good fit. The revival of tbe Drow under a new deity.
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Dracula in Romainian is Draculea so the 'e' is there already with that spelling.
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