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    Tue Jun 18, 2024 11:03 am  
    New Flanaess Map from 5E DMG

    The new Flanaess map that will be included in the DMG this fall has been released into the wild.



    Source: https://www.wargamer.com/dnd/the-new-dnd-dungeon-masters-guide-has-a-whole-campaign-world
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    Tue Jun 18, 2024 12:39 pm  

    Awesome! I will take all I can get of the greatest fake realms ever made!
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    Wed Jun 19, 2024 7:25 am  

    In your video, you forgot to discuss the renaming of North Province.
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    Wed Jun 19, 2024 11:17 am  

    Tiger Nomads renamed as Chakyik
    Wolf Nomads renamed as Wegwiur.
    Blackmoor renamed as Arn.
    Ice, Snow and Frost has been renamed.
    Rovers of the Barrens renamed as The Hunting Lands.
    North Province renamed as Aeriaak.
    The Scarlet Brother Hood renames as Shar.
    I'm sure there are more than I did not see.
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    Wed Jun 19, 2024 1:47 pm  

    baronzemo wrote:

    Blackmoor renamed as Arn.


    Oh, I get it.

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    Fri Jun 21, 2024 2:55 am  

    The Paynims have been renamed.

    I see that Almor, the Horned Society, Tenh, and the Shield Lands are back. Did they rewind to before the Greyhawk Wars? I'm aware that some later material might have brought Tenh and the Shield Lands back, but I was under the impression that the Horned Society went underground (figuratively, not literally) and there was pretty much no hope for Almor.
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    Fri Jun 21, 2024 4:23 am  

    baronzemo wrote:
    Tiger Nomads renamed as Chakyik
    Wolf Nomads renamed as Wegwiur.
    Blackmoor renamed as Arn.
    Ice, Snow and Frost has been renamed.
    Rovers of the Barrens renamed as The Hunting Lands.
    North Province renamed as Aeriaak.
    The Scarlet Brother Hood renames as Shar.
    I'm sure there are more than I did not see.


    Never heard of Blackmoor referred to as Arn, nor the North Province referred to as Aeriaak. But the rest of those names have existed since forever (the folio, for most of them at least), they've simply changed the names on the map to what the people living there call themselves.
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    Fri Jun 21, 2024 4:42 pm  

    I noticed Rary's tower is not in the Bright Desert and is not referred to as the Empire of the Bright Lands.

    The capital of Bissel is Thornward, not Pellak.

    No "whirlwinds" around the Splindrifts.

    I think they have rebooted to 576.
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    Fri Jun 21, 2024 8:34 pm  

    The Canonfire! Discord channel featured a lot of clowning on "Aeriaak" and critique of the elision of terms like the "Caliphate" of Ekbir and replacement by other terms derived from Earth's Islamic history, viz., Sultanate.

    I just noticed that the new map "corrects" / renames Flotsom and Jetsom Islands (making them Flotsam and Jetsam).

    Finally, the discussion there agrees with what folks have said hereŚWizards is apparently continuing its 5e use of Greyhawk in a 576 CY / pre-GH Wars / pre-Living Greyhawk mode.
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    Sat Jun 22, 2024 3:20 pm  

    mtg wrote:
    The Canonfire! Discord channel featured a lot of clowning on "Aeriaak" and critique of the elision of terms like the "Caliphate" of Ekbir and replacement by other terms derived from Earth's Islamic history, viz., Sultanate.

    I just noticed that the new map "corrects" / renames Flotsom and Jetsom Islands (making them Flotsam and Jetsam).

    Finally, the discussion there agrees with what folks have said hereŚWizards is apparently continuing its 5e use of Greyhawk in a 576 CY / pre-GH Wars / pre-Living Greyhawk mode.



    I am alright with a reboot, a boot... a re-reboot. Just give me more.
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    Sat Jun 22, 2024 6:04 pm  

    mtg wrote:

    I just noticed that the new map "corrects" / renames Flotsom and Jetsom Islands (making them Flotsam and Jetsam).


    They also didnĺt include the Sybarate Isle from UK1 on the map.

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    Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:35 pm  

    That's one change of which I approve because Sybarate Island is supposed to have an area of about 20 square miles, or 4.48 miles square, and thus be so small that it shouldn't appear on a Darlene-scale map of the Flanaess.
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    Mon Jun 24, 2024 7:42 pm  

    This article on the history of Arn in D&D is worth a look: https://blackmoormystara.blogspot.com/2024/06/the-realm-of-arn-and-its-history-in-d.html?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR3fTZimvNKYzlOQiRXklKSJaQADlK_cWcr-M3scoe3yDPVc5yjmajHEIdc_aem_Cij9UhH1VfsoOb_HWcT6Kg
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