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    589 CY Darlene Compatible Map
    Posted on Thu, February 26, 2004 by Farcluun
    abysslin writes "This is a hex map that is fully compatible with the famous "Darlene Map" of the 83' folio, coordinates and all, but is updated to 589 CY!

    Now, 'hawkers old and new will be on the same page when quoting locations. Enjoy!



    589 CY Darlene Compatible Map
    By: Terrance "abysslin" Hunt
    Used with Permission. Do not repost without obtaining prior permission from the author. *(see below)

    I put alot of hours into this map to give people not fortunate enough to own the 83' Greyhawk Folio and From the Ashes something to bridge the gap of Darlene coordinate quotes and to see that there is much more out there than the map in the Living Greyhawk Gazateer, which could have used abit better treatment. Old and new 'hawkers alike should find this as a useful tool to enhance their gaming sessions.

    DOWNLOAD HERE

    Here's a preview of this awesome piece of cartographic glory!

    Update: There are 2 errors present on this map.
    1. "Chathold" is spelled "Chathola."
    2. There are 2 cities marked as "Jalpa."

    * I grant anyone and everyone permission to use this (my) map in any way shape, or form so long as the following 2 criteria are met.

    1. My name remains intact in the lower right hand corner of the map. If this requirement can not be met (i.e.=using partial sections of the map), then please use text on the same page as the map and as close to the map as possible, showing credit to me as Terrance "Abysslin" Hunt.

    2. Also on the same page as the map and as close to it as possible, there is a link to Canonfire as well as text stating that the map was and can be originally found here.

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    Re: 589 CY Darlene Compatible Map (Score: 1)
    by Argon on Fri, February 27, 2004
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    I really like the map. While it doesn't have the beautiful and geographic 3-D like fell of an Anondson map. It is really well done and covers a large area, it also succeeds in eliminating the need to use a ruler to mark distance. SO for the few set backs is has as an actual piece of art it more than makes up for it in general use. I give it a 5 out of 5!



    Re: 589 CY Darlene Compatible Map (Score: 1)
    by Abysslin (abyss@canonfire.com) on Fri, February 27, 2004
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    Ha! Thanks, Argon.

    I know there are some "blahs" about it. The rivers aren't named and it only has the same cities +5 or 6 of the original, which aren't very many, but I thought the text was already cluttering it was enough.


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    Re: 589 CY Darlene Compatible Map (Score: 1)
    by donimator on Fri, February 27, 2004
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    Excellent job, updates the setting beautifully and makes a good transition from all of us who only remember the Darlene map. To me, this is Greyhawk, well done!



    Re: 589 CY Darlene Compatible Map (Score: 1)
    by Abysslin (abyss@canonfire.com) on Fri, February 27, 2004
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    Thx, Donimator! It's Greyhawk to me too, somewhat old school meets new school. Appreciate the comment!


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    Re: 589 CY Darlene Compatible Map (Score: 1)
    by Braggi (braggi@greyhawk.gates) on Sat, February 28, 2004
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    Lots of hard work here. Beautifully done!


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    Good for General Use (Score: 1)
    by Greyson on Sun, February 29, 2004
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    I like the map because it is easy to read, figure distance and it looks so much like the Darlene map. It is a good map for general use. Also, it does not completely empty my printer's color cartridge.

    Great job. Another goodpiece of CF work.



    Re: Good for General Use (Score: 1)
    by Abysslin (abyss@canonfire.com) on Sun, February 29, 2004
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    Glad to hear you printed it out. I have 1 on the wall in my gaming den and it has been the most used gaming tool in my collection ever since!


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    Re: 589 CY Darlene Compatible Map (Score: 1)
    by Yabusama on Sun, February 29, 2004
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    Excellent map, it was about time someone updated the original map. I too have a similiar map that I use for my campaign, I might now consider posting it too.



    Re: 589 CY Darlene Compatible Map (Score: 1)
    by Abysslin (abyss@canonfire.com) on Sun, February 29, 2004
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    Yabusama, from your older submissions I can see that you are a great cartographer. Send 'em in!

    Additionally, If we ever need cartographic work done for CFAs, perhaps I could persuade you into the project )


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    Re: 589 CY Darlene Compatible Map (Score: 1)
    by Yabusama on Sun, February 29, 2004
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    I would be flattered to be considered, thanks


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    Re: 589 CY Darlene Compatible Map (Score: 1)
    by Abysslin (abyss@canonfire.com) on Mon, March 01, 2004
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    That'd be great. I'll let you know if I ever run into that particular need. Pro work such as yours would be an invaluable enhancement, for sure.


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    Key to map? (Score: 1)
    by McBard on Thu, March 04, 2004
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    Obviously, most of the terrain symbols follow the familiar symbols of extant maps. However, what are the "clear green" hexes that surround many of the cities? Cultivated land, I suppose, versus grasslands?

    Frankly, I prefer your non-3-D approach to the terrain, as opposed to the original and FtA maps.

    Nice job, and thanks!



    Re: Key to map? (Score: 1)
    by Abysslin (abyss@canonfire.com) on Thu, March 04, 2004
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    Ha! I knew that one was coming eventually. Initially the green hexes around cities were to represent farm or civilized (ie. patrolled, settled) land, but I seemed to have drifted from that as the map progressed.

    Taking a view upon it didn't seem bad, o I just left it as is.

    Looking back, I probably should've remapped those areas, but what they heck, it's still a good map judging by the comments here!


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    Re: Key to map? (Score: 1)
    by McBard on Thu, March 04, 2004
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    Actually, I think it's a great idea to provide a "Cultivated Land" hex as opposed to a "Grasslands/Open" hex. One of my favorite sections of the 3.5 DMG is the section on Wilderness Adventures (pp 86-98), and how it breaks down "Plains Terrain" into the subtypes called "Farm" and "Grassland". Obviously, there would be farmland in the grassland hexes; however, I like the idea of marking the concentrated farm hexes surrounding cities as something other than plains. Good job.

    Also, could you provide a key to the different city symbols? I'm assuming they refer to their different sizes...If you have in fact matched these symbols to the DMG "Random Town Generation" chart (Small town up through Metropolis), then you truely rock!


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    Re: Key to map? (Score: 1)
    by Abysslin (abyss@canonfire.com) on Thu, March 04, 2004
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    I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I'm hard-core 2nd Ed. so I did not use said methods.

    The symbols are basically used as a generalization of the kind of town they represent.

    Farmstead-like
    Town-like
    City-like

    Port City

    Light Fortifaction
    Medium Fortication
    Heavy Fortification

    Disputed Capital
    Capital

    I've since created more city representative icons, so I may redo the map when my current projects are finished, some day.


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    Re: 589 CY Darlene Compatible Map (Score: 1)
    by Abysslin (abyss@canonfire.com) on Thu, March 04, 2004
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    btw, the red cities are old capitals or cities with an uncertain future due to current conflicts involving them.



    Re: 589 CY Darlene Compatible Map (Score: 1)
    by Omote on Fri, March 05, 2004
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    It is a very good map, indeed.

    What program did you use to create it ~ Campaign Cartographer or something similar?

    I have always love to create maps in the old "hex-style" like back in the old Gazetter days. I'm really interested in making my own maps like your (in hex grid), but I've never known where to start. Could you give a fellow 'Hawker some help?

    ........................Omote



    Re: 589 CY Darlene Compatible Map (Score: 1)
    by Abysslin (abyss@canonfire.com) on Fri, March 05, 2004
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    To be honest I dont even know the name of the program. I don't think it was ever given one. Its creator credits himself only as AKS.


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    Re: 589 CY Darlene Compatible Map (Score: 1)
    by Omote on Fri, March 05, 2004
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    Damn, that is too bad. Your map has inspired me!!!

    ........................Omote


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    Re: 589 CY Darlene Compatible Map (Score: 1)
    by Omote on Fri, March 05, 2004
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    Hmm, well I definatly found the program, but it seems like your version is more comprehensive then the one I have. How did you get Ruins, Snow, and Deep Snow hex tiles (if you don't mind me asking)?

    .....................Omote


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    Re: 589 CY Darlene Compatible Map (Score: 1)
    by Abysslin (abyss@canonfire.com) on Fri, March 05, 2004
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    Sweet.

    You have to make extra hexes yourself. I used MS Paint )


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    Re: 589 CY Darlene Compatible Map (Score: 1)
    by Omote on Fri, March 05, 2004
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    WoW, indeed that was a lot of work then for the map. Even bigger *thumbs up* to you for making the map! You definatly didn't make it easy on yourself, however the end result was superb.

    ....................Omote


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    Re: 589 CY Darlene Compatible Map (Score: 1)
    by castlemike on Thu, May 06, 2004
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    Excellent Map. Thanks for posting it.



    Re: 589 CY Darlene Compatible Map (Score: 1)
    by abysslin (abyss@canonfire.com) on Wed, January 12, 2005
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    Thanks for the comment.

    I have seen (and enjoyed) a number of your "CD" maps on Dragonsfoot.


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    Re: 589 CY Darlene Compatible Map (Score: 1)
    by abysslin (abyss@canonfire.com) on Fri, January 21, 2005
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    Er, sorry about that. His SN is "Catlewalls," heh..


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    Re: 589 CY Darlene Compatible Map (Score: 1)
    by samuelddarden on Wed, November 27, 2019
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    This  map is very good because it's very intellectual and amazing. Try word search puzzles for kids on PC & Mac for free. It's fun. Keeps my brain working rather than just mindless game.



    Re: 589 CY Darlene Compatible Map (Score: 1)
    by Chris889 on Thu, January 30, 2020
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    So far the best map I've seen. Thanks for making this possible, mate!





    Re: 589 CY Darlene Compatible Map (Score: 1)
    by ChrisSmith on Tue, March 24, 2020
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    I love this map and it is great that it is compatible with the Darlene Map! Thank you for sharing. 





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