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    Re: The Yaheetes and Tyrus: The Wars Against the Hand and the Eye in the Sheldomar (Score: 1)
    by Kirt on Sun, October 02, 2005
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    A plausible theory.

    For my version, see the several paragraphs written in the footnotes about Vecna in the article on Keoland in the latest Oerth Journal.

    Note that most people consider that Vecna was not yet a diety, merely was researching dietiehood, when he was killed by Kas.


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    Re: The Yaheetes and Tyrus: The Wars Against the Hand and the Eye in the Sheldomar (Score: 1)
    by Samwise ( on Sun, October 02, 2005
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    That's actually rather similar to what Gary Holian has asserted regarding Vecna's "Empire". That he spent most of his time off doing the esoteric research that all well-adjusted liches do, and that he only showed up once every generation or so to demand more tribute from those he had "conquered".

    While I can certainly see some merit in such a theory, it still remains that those conquered people did indeed block passage of the migrating Oeridians into the Sheldomar, and others also apparently deflected the migration north of the Nyr Dyv and away from the mouth of the Velverdyva.

    As for archeological evidence, while I am a strong advocate of the "Flan as a thriving Bronze Age-Early Iron Age society" model, bear in mind that we are still talking about a late medieval to early renaissance society in the Flanaess today, one that is definitely using the remains of any previous civilization to build their own. As such, there is both a restricted amount to find, as well as much of what is available being in use. Further, a definite prejudice exists against identifying what is available with the Flan, even to the extent of creating the "Ur-Flan" to account for it. Still, close examination reveals numerous instances of such ruins being present, such as Tostenhca, Sulm, and others. They are out there, you just need to go looking for them, identify them as Flan, and accept they are Flan.

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